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Mini split for porch

Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Manymarbles
Gonzales
Member since Jul 2022
3 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:53 pm
Builders are talking about people now installing mini splits on back porches. While it does not keep air in obviously it will blow freezing cold air over a certain entertainment or sitting area. Do these things last awhile? Maintenance on them?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:07 pm to
God damn I'm frickin poor
Posted by HangingWithMrCooper
The Bay Area
Member since Aug 2017
161 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:10 pm to
Don’t know how big your porch is but I would look at the Cajun Koolers as well.

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Posted by Canvasback
Member since Jan 2016
198 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:28 pm to
My contractor told me people are putting an extra 5 ton unit with multiple 18” air registers blowing on seating areas for their patios for cooling. This is open patio’s….what am I missing here? Literally throwing money to the wind!
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3365 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:28 pm to
I saw a house recently that had an A/C vent on the back patio. Looked to be run from the indoor central air. In between 2 ceiling fans on the patio to blow the cold air down, I suppose. Don’t know how well(or poorly) this works. I guess you only add a minimal amount of cost to operate assuming the A/C is sized for the inside plus the extra vent. All the return air came from indoors. It made me curious, but I assumed it didn’t really work that well since it isn’t widespread.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

My contractor told me people are putting an extra 5 ton unit with multiple 18” air registers blowing on seating areas for their patios for cooling. This is open patio’s….what am I missing here? Literally throwing money to the wind!


My dad used to yell at me if I kept the door open to long when going outside and say “I’m not cooling the whole neighborhood”

I guess these people are cooling the whole neighborhood
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
3895 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:48 pm to
Do it and halt global warming for all of us please.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14263 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:24 pm to
Are you saying they want to air condition an area open to the outside? I have one in my patio and it's awesome but it has walls and doors etc.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7541 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:38 pm to
This won't work very well.

The way an A/C system works is to recirculate air inside the envelope and bring down the humidity and temperature by sending the same air through multiple passes over the coils.

Essentially the outdoor unit would be a once through system.

Hospital surgery rooms have these types of systems but they are incredibly oversized and have separate dehumidification systems.

You'll see something similar at Disney when they leave the doors open 24/7 but you don't see the refrigeration plant they have running in the background.

Running a vent off your main system is even worse. It guarantees your house is under negative pressure and will draw in makeup air from the outdoors.

Posted by SwampCollie
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
219 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:37 am to
I've been to a house w/ several AC vents on the open porch. The vents were positioned directly above ceiling fans and you could absolutely feel the difference.

That said, I wouldn't want it tied to my central unit and running 24/7. With cash to burn I'd definitely be interested in a mini split for intermittent use. Have one setup in my garage and highly recommend
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20396 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:17 am to
This should win First World Problem of the Day fo sho
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7541 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I've been to a house w/ several AC vents on the open porch. The vents were positioned directly above ceiling fans and you could absolutely feel the difference.


Yes, when you pump conditioned air out of the conditioned space to the porch I bet you can feel the difference on the porch.

Wanna know where the makeup air is coming from for the conditioned space?

It’s a dumb idea and the same as having leaky supply ducts in the attic.
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