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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by TimeOutdoors
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 1:22 pm to
Thanks for the chart. Might be worth posting this on the first page.

I ordered a couple caddies you had linked in a post. It might be worth posting that link on the first page too.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 5:05 pm to
I emailed Ison's to see if they have different varieties of paw paw trees and this is what I got.

quote:

All paw paw seedlings are genetically different so two would pollinate each other. Thanks, Isons


Would i be making a huge mistake by getting the natives? Was really happy with the size/health/price of the nectaplum and blackberries I got from them.

isons link
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:29 pm to
Can’t believe I had to get my greenhouse back up and heater and all, as well as cover some of the potted flowers I didn’t want to bring inside.
Good thing I fertilized my garden soil late and didn’t get any vegetables in the ground just yet.

And while it’s hard to bitch about this beautiful weather, it’s a bit of a pain in the arse right now.


My Mamey is definitely coming back alive. I’ll get some pics of it.
Also ordered some star fruit and got that in last week. Those pics tigerlaff of his looked delicious. Had to get some.

All my trees are just turning a year old so I’m still not looking to bear any fruit this spring/summer. Pruning for green growth.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:48 pm to
Nice man. Can't wait to see those. You won't regret the starfruit. Such an easy producer.

Since we are dealing with this bullshite late freeze, I thought some of you might enjoy this UF article about one of their researchers who is developing extremely cold hardy avocado varieties for zones 8b and 9a. Very cool stuff. An avocado that survives 17F and is actually good would be huge for the Gulf South.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:50 pm to
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Would i be making a huge mistake by getting the natives?

Unless you plan to graft later, yes I think it would be a mistake. Seedling pawpaws run the risk of being complete garbage. Sellers are making a killing on pawpaw seedlings right now because the public doesn't know any better. What I look for are locally native pawpaws from my area. I know that they can survive here in the wild and thus make good rootstock. I can then graft on top of them.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:55 pm to
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Unless you plan to graft later, yes I think it would be a mistake.


Thanks, I dont plan on grafting.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:00 pm to
Pulled the trigger this morning on a Big Jim loquat and Suebelle white sapote from Gala, both grafted. Picked up a few new figs this past weekend to add to the collection - LSU Hollier, Violet Sepor, Black Celeste, LSU St Gabriel, CDD Mutante, and a few other new cuttings. I think that puts me around 25 different figs. Plan to pick up a Kary starfruit and Ruby Supreme guava later this year. Will definitely need to set up some form of heated greenhouse in my shop for next winter.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 7:12 pm to
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LSU Hollier

One of my favorite figs. Very rare flavor profile. Take a look at Prosciutto Unknown. The best fig I've ever tasted and it has been consistently that good, not just an exceptional fruit here and there.

Very excited to see how you do with the white sapote. I also got mine from Gala. We can compare notes about growth. Mine is about 5 feet tall but still young and lanky. I'll post a photo tomorrow. It has flowers on it.

Starfruit and ruby supreme guavas will be crowd pleasers. Just so easy to get fruit on them and both are beautiful trees.

ETA: wind totally gone but we've got some cloud cover and low humidity. We may just avoid frost with those conditions.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:24 pm to
I ordered a Kara Starfruit this week. I’m new to figs but am going to get 1-2 this weekend. I already have one brown turkey fig. Any suggestions?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:26 am to
Do not buy any of the common store garbage figs. Brown turkey is the worst one. The others you will see are celeste, Chicago hardy, LSU gold, and LSU purple. All very mediocre figs.

Look for Smith, black celeste, Adriatic figs like white Madeira, violette de Bordeaux, colle de dame, etc. In fact, just go to Ross Raddi's fig boss website and read about humid climate fig varieties. Don't buy anything that only works in a dry Mediterranean climate. You want elite taste, productivity, and rain resistance.

Temp 34F with a dew point of 23F. We may have avoided any frost at all.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 7:52 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:14 am to
It was 37 degrees at my house when I left this morning at 4:30. The weather monitoring station that is about a half mile from my house is reporting 33 degrees currently. I'm in St Francisville, I think I'm a little further north than you. Hopefully the temps are higher than expected for all of us.

I think my banana tree will make it.

eta: the lowest it dipped for me was 30 degrees. It only showed that low for about an hour, though. 38 degrees at my house now.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:34 am to
There are 3 main taste profiles - sugar, berry, and honey. Most people in Louisiana grew up on Celeste or brown turkey (both sugar figs) because it’s what was growing in mawmaw’s yard. I have personal experience with all types mentioned below as in ground trees and all handle humid conditions great. These are all in-ground trees.

Honey: Galbun, by far my favorite honey fig, large fruit size, vigorous tree. Smith is a mix of honey and berry - highly resistant to rain and great flavor.


Sugar: Improved Celeste, more berry flavor than regular Celeste but I would still group it in the sugar fig profile. Also larger fruit than regular Celeste. It would be considered a very good fig by most people.

Berry: My favorite flavor profile. Adriatic figs have a greenish skin with reddish flesh - White Madeira #1 or LSU Strawberry. Dark skin with dark flesh - many of these have splitting problems in high humidity (Black Madeira, some Col de Dames, I-258). I’ve had great success with Malta Black (Mt Etna type fig - these taste great and don’t split. Noire de berbentane, LSU Scott’s Black are also very good.

I’ll be able to taste about 10 new varieties this year (planted last fall). If I could only plant 1 and I already had a sugar fig, it would be hard not to go with a Smith or some type of Mt Etna like Malta Black or St Rita. Malta Black was my family’s favorite last year. Malta Black also produces a breba crop on old wood then produces a main crop on new growth.

I propagate figs every year. Would be happy to share if you aren’t too far away. I have several rooted cuttings that I’ll be growing out all year in pots.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:41 am to
Great fig advice. I may have to take you up on a Mt. Etna type cutting. I don't have any and have never had one.

Final weather verdict from Mandeville: 33.3F, zero frost. Winter is over, baws. The fun times start now. All tropicals with fruits or flowers like mango and lychee never got close to the critical 40F mark in the greenhouses.

And remember, if we had not busted our asses doing all the work, it would have been 26F.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 7:45 am
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:44 am to
With all the help you provide everyone on this thread I’d be happy to ship you a rooted cutting for free. They will be ready to ship before the temps get too high. Ping me on this thread in early May and we can exchange info.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:18 am to
quote:

ou need to get your things covered and anchored.

My Satsuma looked great this morning. I covered and used lights. Question: tonight's low is 34. My concern is all about the many blooms. Cover again?
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:00 pm to
What size Pumice does everyone get? 1/4? 3/8? 1/2?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

With all the help you provide everyone on this thread I’d be happy to ship you a rooted cutting for free. They will be ready to ship before the temps get too high. Ping me on this thread in early May and we can exchange info.

Wow, thank you my man. That is extremely generous. I'll hit you up first week of May.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

What size Pumice does everyone get? 1/4? 3/8? 1/2?


1/4" would be best.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:26 pm to
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tonight's low is 34. My concern is all about the many blooms. Cover again?


Yeah. One more night to protect the bloom. It would probably be fine but there is no sense in risking it when you have probable frost conditions like 34F. My rule of thumb is to go one step beyond what my own reasoned experience tells me. If my life depended on it, I would bet with 90% confidence that 34F even with some frost would not significantly reduce your satsuma crop. But it's not 100%. So then I go one step beyond that and cover. More work, great results, very few disappointments.

I took all my stuff down this morning (except the greenhouses) but my low tonight is 38F.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 2:34 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 2:27 pm to
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