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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:20 am to
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22 degrees currently and the greenhouse is around 47 degreees.


22 when I woke up this morning, my greenhouse was showing 38 degrees. It's at 41 now. Hopefully no damage. If the heater ran all night the plants should be good, the temp monitor is at a different location than the thermostat probe.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:50 am to
The tarp really helped. I bought 4 of the stacked bird feeders from tractor supply and put a 5 lb weight on each one and attached it to the corner of the tarp with a small quick clip. Easier and faster than tying it down.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:40 am to
Measured outdoor low: 24.4F
Greenhouse 1 low: 46.5F
Greenhouse 2 low: 57F
Grow room low: 69F

That's a win, my dudes. Glad to see y'all had similar success. Tonight will be colder but we should have this licked without any unforced errors.

And yes, the additional tarp on top of the greenhouses works. Just that extra layer of air is very significant.

Y'all make sure to cut the heat to anything covered in plastic if it will be in the direct sunlight. Number one way people kill their trees.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:25 pm to
Low of 57? What do you have your thermostat set at?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:18 pm to
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Low of 57? What do you have your thermostat set at?


50F. That's the result of 3 sealed 5 gallon buckets of hot water. It basically let the heater take the night off except for drafts of cold air that would blow in. The space was level at 49-51F all day then when I added the buckets at about 9:30PM it very slowly raised it to 57F by this morning.



I marked it with a red dot where I added the buckets. See the slow and steady rise? Even more impressive when you look at the curve of the exterior outside temps. The smaller rise before is from turning the grow lights on.



So even with temps falling all night and the heater set to 50F, those hot buckets did excellent work in this 8X8X7 tent. Love having data on all this. Lets you dispose of all the silly old wives' tales about keeping greenhouses warm (candle and a terracotta pot, etc.)
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 4:10 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:41 pm to
that’s fairly amazing
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16971 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Y'all make sure to cut the heat to anything covered in plastic if it will be in the direct sunlight. Number one way people kill their trees.


You can see when mine was getting the direct sunlight.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:32 pm to
I just hate having to protect this satsuma that hasn't even made an orange yet. If none this season, I am starting over.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16971 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:39 pm to
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I just hate having to protect this satsuma that hasn't even made an orange yet. If none this season, I am starting over.


I have a Brown's Satsuma tree that is 5 years old and never produced one that is sweet enough to eat. I left it uncovered. I'm about to see if it made it. I planted an Arctic Frost last year, it's covered.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1243 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:37 pm to
I have 3 satsumas and a Meyer lemon in the ground. This time I just stuffed the trunk with straw inside of hardware cloth. If they die they die. I’ll go back with some more figs or blueberries

Edit - I did roll my passion fruit, olive, and a couple young potted figs in the shop. Put a heat lamp on them and they look good.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 6:40 pm to
My satsuma tree looks fine. Looks like my guava took some heavy damage :(

Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22759 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:35 pm to
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guava

Not going to tolerate freezing temps. If you can't keep them above 32F I'd look into the cattley guava. Good down to 22F in the ground (better than a navel orange).
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
16971 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:14 am to
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Not going to tolerate freezing temps. If you can't keep them above 32F I'd look into the cattley guava. Good down to 22F in the ground (better than a navel orange).


I'm guessing it was how I had the heater situated in the greenhouse. Half of the tree looks bad, the other half is fine. I'm tempted to put this one in the ground and keep it trimmed to where I can just set up the greenhouse over it every winter.

My dragonfruit looks fine
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:35 am to
As someone who's had zero experience with greenhouses other than watching Frosty the Snowman every year, i still find it amazing that the temperature inside this portable pop up tent that's sitting in the sun is 78F while the temperature outside is 38F.

And i maintained 45F all night with my little heater, but it's still crazy to me that i have to go open up the doors and windows around 11am or it's going to get too hot in there.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:26 am to
Amazed me too and it was why I just went all in on tropical fruit. It's absolutely doable in zone 9, but no one you know is out there doing it.

Outside low: 19.2F
Greenhouse 1 low: 43.7F
Greenhouse 2 low: 48.7F
Grow room low: 65.8F

Coldest night of the winter so far and once again breaking the bottom average minimum threshold for zone 9a (20F-25F) for six years in a row. Warmer winter minimums better start soon or this won't be zone 9 anymore. And I'm only 3 miles from 9b.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 6:27 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:30 am to
I did try to test and see what plants could handle near 32F about a week or so ago when we had some low temps. I think it got to 32 one night. The guava and mamey leaves started turning a little brown, and as expected my ice cream banana tree did as well.
My lime, pineapple, mango's, avacado all seemed to do just fine.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22759 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:42 am to
Anything with tough waxy leaves will do better with cold. They have a lower transpiration rate and it is harder to freeze the water inside those armored cells. Things with large soft leaves alway get hit the worst. Mexican race avocados can usually tolerate down to 15F-20F.

All your results make sense.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30338 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:12 am to
My reason for testing is that I don't want to take the greenhouse out often and want to see when it's necessary and for what trees.

The cold hardier trees i want to put in my front yard, in a flower bed i no longer want to be a flower bed and just have potted citrus trees in it with some rocks as the bed. Then i can get the portable greenhouse that butts up to the wall for those and not have to use it that often, and not have to transport them around too much.

Then i'll keep the more cold sensitive trees in the back where I can put up the bigger greenhouse for them more often, or even just leave it up in the winter (with the windows open of course).
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34534 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:28 am to
Am I gonna lose all my tiny lemons from this cold snap? (they are all 1/4" big)

I have some pipe warmers and halogen lights on my tree but it was too big to cover. (10' diameter and 15-20' tall)
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48943 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:31 am to
fuuuuuuck

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