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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:52 pm to audioguy
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:52 pm to audioguy
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I really need to find a bulk source for perlite. The 8qt bags from Lowe’s aren’t going to cut it if I keep using this mixture.
I dont' know where you're at, but Clegg's here in BR has a giant bag of perlite, and it's not that expensive. I want to say it's like $50 and is about 4' tall.
I did my own mixture of 1/3 sand/perlite/sphagnum moss and i filled up about 8-15G pots using that giant bag of perlite.
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Posted on 6/16/25 at 2:26 pm to TeddyPadillac
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll swing by next time I’m in the area. I’m guessing it’s a 4cu ft. Bag.
I have an improved Meyer Lemon that hasn’t been growing in the ground and I’m considering moving it to one of these 30 gallon pots.
I have an improved Meyer Lemon that hasn’t been growing in the ground and I’m considering moving it to one of these 30 gallon pots.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 6:26 pm to audioguy
Looks great. 30gal is a fine permanent home. Just remeber to root prune every 3-4 years or so. And your soil mix will outperform anything available at a store provided you water and fertilize.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 6:56 am to Tigerlaff
Questions about my blue Java banana plant:
I’ve got 2 pups growing. The picture is several weeks old. One is about 15-18 inches tall and the other is about 12 inches.
At what height should I remove them if I want to share them with others?
Should I pot them like I received them from the nursery?
Can they be planted in the ground this summer or should they be kept until next spring?
I’ve got 2 pups growing. The picture is several weeks old. One is about 15-18 inches tall and the other is about 12 inches.
At what height should I remove them if I want to share them with others?
Should I pot them like I received them from the nursery?
Can they be planted in the ground this summer or should they be kept until next spring?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:07 am to Tigerlaff
quote:how does one do this with a big arse tree?
Just remeber to root prune every 3-4 years or so.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:12 am to 81Tiger
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Should I pot them like I received them from the nursery?
I just potted a big clump of Christmas Palm roots that are growing a seedling like that. I actually have no idea in this world if it will grow or if I am a today dumbass for doing it. I just wanted to try and see what happens.
BTW, your lawn looks very nice.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:19 pm to 81Tiger
I wait until pups are about 2 feet tall to remove so they have some decent roots.
If I'm not keeping them I remove them as soon as they come up.
You think it's a real blue java? Almost never is unless it came from a specialty dealer.
If I'm not keeping them I remove them as soon as they come up.
You think it's a real blue java? Almost never is unless it came from a specialty dealer.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:21 pm to Neauxla
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how does one do this with a big arse tree?
I flip mine on the side, shake the tree out of the pot, and then spray down the rootball to expose the exterior roots. Then I use a pruning saw and clippers to remove about 1/3 of the root mass. Then I put back into the same pot with new soil, fertilizer, etc.
You'll be shocked at how well trees respond to this. But don't do it if it doesn't need it. If it comes out of the pot and you're not seeing roots circling the edge, let it ride.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 4:10 pm to Tigerlaff
Latest endeavor: pawpaws!
The two small ones are the mango and Susquehanna varieties. The big one is sunflower. Will have a bare root Collins select delivered this winter. Not a tropical plant, but in the Annona family with things like cherimola, sugar apple, custard apple, atemoya, etc. Very tropical looking and produces a tropical tasting fruit.
The small ones need a year in a pot in the shade. The big one is ready to go in the ground. Not the greatest time to plant but whatever.
ETA: it's 86F at midnight in Mandeville. That's why we need to be growing tropical fruit.
The two small ones are the mango and Susquehanna varieties. The big one is sunflower. Will have a bare root Collins select delivered this winter. Not a tropical plant, but in the Annona family with things like cherimola, sugar apple, custard apple, atemoya, etc. Very tropical looking and produces a tropical tasting fruit.
The small ones need a year in a pot in the shade. The big one is ready to go in the ground. Not the greatest time to plant but whatever.
ETA: it's 86F at midnight in Mandeville. That's why we need to be growing tropical fruit.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:08 pm to Tigerlaff
Ive been wanting some paw paws but I dont have room in my yard for anymore trees unless I remove my veggie gardens. Looking forward to seeing these grow
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:11 pm to Loup
I'm putting them in full sun (once they are old enough) but I'm going to need to do some major soil amendment first. Too much clay.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 6:23 am to Tigerlaff
quote:
You think it's a real blue java? Almost never is unless it came from a specialty dealer.
I am not a botanist so I am relying on Louisiana Nursery which marketed it specifically as blue java. Don’t know what benefit they would gain from mislabeling the plant.
Here’s a picture of its container which shows the wholesaler is Greenleaf Nursery in El Campo, TX. I don’t know if Greenleaf qualifies as a specialty nursery, but its website states “Just 30 miles from the Gulf Coast, this nursery has the ideal climate for the production of our largest selection of broadleaf evergreens, tropicals and annual color.”
Greenleaf Nursery
Based on this information, and the fact that I didn’t buy it from Chuck with a Truck on the side of the road, I think it’s legit.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 8:29 am to 81Tiger
It's possible. Won't know until it fruits. Namwah is better IMO. Better flavor and takes the cold better. Also has a dwarf version.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 8:32 am
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:02 am to Tigerlaff
I finally put my "Blue Java" in the ground. A house in the neighborhood is redoing their deck and had a pile of 2' treated 4x4 drops at the curb. Ripped out one of my raised bed gardens and put the tree and made a ring from the 4x4s. I'm going to put a bigger single high ring around it and fill with gravel to keep my other tropicals there instead of on the patio.
The tree was starting to look sad in the pot.
Should I be cutting the pups down?
Eta: i cant get the imgur link to work. Here it is.
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The tree was starting to look sad in the pot.
Should I be cutting the pups down?
Eta: i cant get the imgur link to work. Here it is.
imgur
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 11:03 am
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:12 am to 81Tiger
“ice cream banana” is used interchangeably in the nursery business for both blue Java and namwah so a plant just labeled as such is probably namwah. Yours has the species/hybrid info on the pot which is unusual for the trade
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:13 am to Loup
damn brah you 45ed the ends and everything LOL. Do not let my wife see this
if it was me I’d leave the pups and let the plants fill up the ring
if it was me I’d leave the pups and let the plants fill up the ring
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:26 am to cgrand
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damn brah you 45ed the ends and everything LOL. Do not let my wife see this
The material was free so I went crazy with it. The pieces werent long enough to make a decent sized square so I cut at 30 degrees so itd be 6 sides. In the backyard I usually use old dirt bike tires for tree rings and my wife hates it. She'll be happy with this one when she gets home.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 2:59 pm to cgrand
Man that looks great.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 12:20 pm to Tigerlaff
So my namwah rack, although small, actually turned out great. Much sweeter than Cavendish bananas from the store and the kids loved them. Very good result considering it was grown in a pot that was far too small. Here's the rack maturing and what the rootball looked like out of the pot.
Also recently planted a veinte cohol banana, which is the shortest fruiting cycle edible banana in the world. 60 days from flower to ripe fruit. My namwah took 152 days.
Starfruit and plumeria blooming nonstop.
Also recently planted a veinte cohol banana, which is the shortest fruiting cycle edible banana in the world. 60 days from flower to ripe fruit. My namwah took 152 days.
Starfruit and plumeria blooming nonstop.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/23/25 at 1:56 pm to Tigerlaff
How big is your property to hold all these plants?!?!
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