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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:11 am to
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Should I trim damaged leaves off of the banana tree? I buckled one of them while loading it in the truck. IDK if I should cut it off or leave it drooping.

You don't have to but I do for aesthetic appeal. It will shoot out replacements in no time. When winter approaches leave them hanging to further insulate the trunk if you are attempting to overwinter and get fruit. Use the discarded leaves you cut down as mulch. Best possible mulch for a banana is shredded banana leaves.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 8:13 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:42 am to
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Best possible mulch for a banana is shredded banana leaves.
absolutely...i also chop up the old stems and feed them back to the bed as well. nothing makes a better amendment than rotting banana flesh
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:47 am to
Same. It decomposes fast and contains tons of potassium.
Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:04 pm to


Got my 3 gal Pickering and Dwarf Hawaiian from Everglades. They seem a bit smaller than I expected..will repot them when my soil comes in next week.
Wondering if these were just upsized recently..oh well ! Should grow well this summer.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:41 pm to
Awesome. Dwarf Hawaiian is a little chlorotic but nothing a good fertilizer and foliar feed won't fix. Pickering looks great. From what I have observed so far Pickering is a very curious combination of both robust and small. It's just a strong arse tree, which usually means wild growth. But it stays small. Mine was dragged from Miami to Louisiana on 04/06/25 laying down in a truck bed, bare rooted, and repotted into a wildly different soil medium. It didn't drop any fruit and it's pushing new growth despite the repotting process happening on 04/15/25. Nine days. Didn't even blink.

Yeah in the fine print everglades tells you that the size of their plants includes the pot. So a 3 foot plant is a 2 foot plant in a pot. Everything I have ever received from them has been small but sometimes they are the only source for unique things. Plus mangos grow fast anyway compared to something like citrus.

ETA: at this size, you REALLY need to watch some videos about how to selectively prune young mangos. You need multiple scaffold branches. People instinctively prune them into a lollipop with a single origin of branches at the top of the trunk and it creates a very weak tree. Don't do this:



To be fair, that is a Valencia Pride and will grow upright and gigantic anyway but I use the picture to illustrate the principle. You don't want all the growth originating from a single point. Wiltz, correct me on any of this if I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 7:18 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:53 pm to
I’m officially an old man. This thread is exciting as hell.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:26 pm to
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I’m officially an old man. This thread is exciting as hell.

Yeah, so the next thing that happens is your wife catches you on your phone at 1AM in the study and you have to find a way to explain that you're using Google translate to decipher the Facebook posts of a bunch of Vietnamese people in Houston who grow atemoyas and sugar apples. And then she wishes you were just talking to another woman.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:13 am to
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Wiltz, correct me on any of this if I'm wrong.


Spot on; that VP is a mess. I like to top them off when they reach about to my hip. Then encourage lateral branching. I consider this video to be the gold standard for managing mango canopies. Definitely worth checking out.

Mango Pruning
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:22 pm to
That video was straight fire. So much knowledge dropped. Soon I'm going to ask you about how many fruit I should let my Pickering hold. Will post pics. My own judgement cannot be trusted but I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna like the answer.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/26/25 at 5:24 pm to
OK man, how many (if any) mangos should I let this Pickering hold? I have already removed 75% of the fruit with only 5 remaining. But I need this tree strong for a zone 9a winter. My instinct is 0-1 but I want to hear your opinion. This is a 15gal recently uppotted to 25gal.





This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 6:53 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:11 am to
I think letting it hold 2-3 is probably fine. The tree looks strong enough to support that.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 7:14 pm to
Thanks man. I left 3. Hope I can get them to maturity. If I do I will spam this thread for days with pics.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 10:21 pm to
Enjoyed that video. Thanks. Looking forward to my two mangoes getting to hip height to do my first pruning.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:43 pm to
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It will shoot out replacements in no time


When you said in no time I figured you meant a couple of weeks. I trimmed off all but 3 undamaged leaves on Friday then went out of town until yesterday. Came home to a 1' shoot coming out of the top that wasn't there before.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 2:18 pm to
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When you said in no time I figured you meant a couple of weeks. I trimmed off all but 3 undamaged leaves on Friday then went out of town until yesterday. Came home to a 1' shoot coming out of the top that wasn't there before.


When they have heat, water, and food they will grow at an insane rate rivaled only by bamboo. I am waiting for the day that I see someone kill a banana in spring/summer by overfertilizing. I don't believe it's even possible. They will chew up as much nutrients and water as you can throw at them.
Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:17 am to
Got my soil in today ..probably needed 4th bag ..58qt resin containers (lots of drain holes, on bricks now, will put on casters)..wife said no go by the pool with plain black pots lol. I also did some reading on how hot nursery pots get in summer time here. My backyard gets 12-14 hours of sun per day, so opted for a cream color. I amended with my own Gary mix for the little left I needed to add. Top dressed with some fox farms, gardentone, a sprinkle of azomite and one spoon of osmocote..plan to keep them in this spot for a couple
Of weeks to shade them from the harsh afternoon sun, while the plants settle in, I did take a fair bit of the organic material from the root ball they were growing in. Hope it works !

Here’s to a couple years of waiting lol





This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:39 am to
very nice
just looking at those pots makes my back hurt though. Casters won’t work at my place I dont have any concrete
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:51 pm to
Looking good! You can and should go heavier on the osmocote. Gary's is basically sterile. No nutrients at all in the mix. All your fertilizer is going to come from that surface layer and whatever you choose to water with. Follow what the label says. One spoonful is not enough for that soil volume.

Lol so how heavy are those pots with the Gary's? Insane, right?
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