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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:25 am to
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:25 am to
Since I’ve never lived anywhere where any of this is possible, this has been one of the more entertaining/interesting threads I’ve read in a long time.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:07 am to
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Since I’ve never lived anywhere where any of this is possible, this has been one of the more entertaining/interesting threads I’ve read in a long time.

Thanks man! After the snowmageddon that blanketed south Louisiana with a foot of powder, I found that my fairly amateur cold protection methods worked great and then realized that I was not making the best use of my zone 9 climate. We are basically a true subtropical climate for 9-10 months out of the year. If you can get through the 60 days of winter (which is really more like 3-6 hard freezes), you can really push what is possible.

Then you've got guys like wiltz who are lucky enough to live somewhere where it never freezes.

What climate zone are you in? You might be surprised at what you can get away with.
Posted by DickTater
Geismar
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:44 am to
Everglades farms is having a sale currently.
I got 2 mango
Pickering and Dwarf Hawaiian 3 gal size!

Use discount code : TROPICAL10 for additional savings ..just wanted to share if anyone wanted to give it it a go
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:38 pm to
Good selections. Got your container and soil plan lined up?
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
I planted a banana tree today. It’s a Blue Java variety I bought from Louisiana Nursery for a few reasons.

They grow well here, are cold hardy down to 10-20 degrees, grow quickly, and the bananas taste like ice cream.

I am pretty excited to see how it turns out.



Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:36 pm to
So what they tell you is Blue Java is almost always Namwah. Blue Java is difficult to find outside of specialty nurseries. This is not a problem. Namwah is fantastic and many think it tastes better than blue java. There are 2 ways to tell namwah from blue java that I know of. First, blue java is lankier and more delicate than namwah. Second, the fruit bunch on blue java has this very defined and separated "knuckle" look between the fruit stems. Namwah is more uniform. See below. What you have there is a dead ringer for namwah.



You will need to wrap it in the winter to save the pseudostem in order to get fruit. Here's my potted namwah bunch as of today:



Namwah gets huge but there is a dwarf variety out there. I have a small plug of the dwarf just starting in my back yard. If you want a statement, tall namwah is the way to go. If you want fruit, much easier to protect and harvest from dwarf namwah.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:48 pm to
Man, thanks for the information!

I have bookmarked your post.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 6:17 pm to
Very welcome baw. This is why I made this thread. I could have saved so much time and money if there were some kind of resource for south Louisiana.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:56 pm to
Gosh dangit i want a banana tree now.


I need to stop reading this thread lol. I've ended up with 3 new trees since it's started.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 9:18 pm to
I highly recommend bananas and especially namwah for these reasons. If you can get it to fruit, great. They're amazing. But even the young pups I cut out of my big trees survived the 2024 winter apocalypse. Zero protection. They are all coming back. Once you have a single tree you can harvest pups and make a million of them. We are in a 5 year stretch of winters with brutal lows but that shite won't last forever. Even without fruit, it is zero maintenance tropical foliage. Your worst case scenario is a more tropical yard and your best case is eating non Cavendish bananas from your own trees.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 9:21 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 9:49 pm to
my banana is coming back but it’s slow. Three winters now it’s died completely back. But I like it’s a pretty tree and the frogs love it
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:20 pm to
Since I planted bananas my house is overrun by green tree frogs. Adds to the ambiance.
Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:03 am to
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Good selections. Got your container and soil plan lined up?


I made a soil mix for my guava that I think is better than 90% of what’s out there …but for these as I hope keep long term, I think I’m going to order legit top pot mix from Amazon ..since they’re young(3g) should I go 15 gallon first then upsize down the road ?

I’m in the process of listening to the UFL mango video it’s long lol
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:18 am to
Yeah, as long as your mix drains I'd go from 3gal straight to 15gal. And the UF videos are amazing. Those and the Gary's Best Gardening channel on YouTube will provide more useful education than anything else I can think of.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 7:22 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:49 pm to
Alright so here's my first attempt with passionfruit. This is Panama Red, allegedly a superb variety. Let me just start by saying, yes, I know there is a lot wrong with this setup. They don't do well in pots and they need a substantial trellis or fence to climb. But I don't have a fence or structure that gets enough sun during the day. These are not winter hardy here. And the spot where the pot sits is a wet clay soil basin. So this setup in a 15gal air pruning pot gets me a rich but fast draining soil in a full sun location. I'd give this a 20% chance of success but that's what we're here for. If it works I'll build a trellis over it.


This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by GeauxldMember
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:19 pm to
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Namwah gets huge but there is a dwarf variety out there. I have a small plug of the dwarf just starting in my back yard. If you want a statement, tall namwah is the way to go. If you want fruit, much easier to protect and harvest from dwarf namwah.


How tall do the tall and dwarf varieties get? Lots of online info says 12-15’ for the tall, and 8-10’ for the dwarf, but I’m skeptical of those numbers. Also, I presume they sucker like other varietals and I’d have to keep it contained?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:22 pm to
why not just plant the native maypop?
the fruits are really good
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:51 pm to
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How tall do the tall and dwarf varieties get? Lots of online info says 12-15’ for the tall, and 8-10’ for the dwarf, but I’m skeptical of those numbers. Also, I presume they sucker like other varietals and I’d have to keep it contained?

Those numbers are spot on in my experience. Yes, all bananas produce pups (free new banana trees). Very easy to contain and propagate.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:53 pm to
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why not just plant the native maypop?
the fruits are really good

Not a fan. Too tart. I'd say tartness is the hallmark trait of most passiflora that are not of the ligularis group and maypop is especially tart in my experience.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 7:33 am to
gotcha

I think you need another one nearby for it to fruit but I may be wrong on that. Plant a maypop anyway though and you’ll get a butterfly bonus. I have tons if you’d like one
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