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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by audioguy
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:53 pm to
I’m still a bit upset that my huge Meiwa got taken out. The snow a couple years ago didn’t actually kill it, but set it back and injured it enough that it finally succumbed and split.

I replaced it with a potted nagami because the wife prefers sour fruit.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:58 pm to
Do you find them locally or does the Louisiana citrus shipping restriction only apply when coming from Florida?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:03 pm to
It's from any control state unless the nursery is certified by LA. I recommend 4 Winds in Cali.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:14 pm to
Saxon becnel grows tart and sweet kumquats. You should be able to find one at a local retailer. I prefer the tart version
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:10 am to
We've got a rajapuri flag leaf!



This is going to be a photo finish. Will need a warm November and probably December. I have a much larger pup on the tree that should flower in April next year.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 8:53 am to
laff how tall is that tree?
I’m about to start planting, I was going to put the 2 namwah in the rear then 2 rajapuri in the middle then the dwarfs up front.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:06 am to
About 7-8 feet at the crown of the stem. Namwah gets tall so definitely in the back.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 11:26 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

rajapuri flag leaf!
I learned something new today! Will be watching mine. I cut the plant complex down to the largest survivor from last year after we had one flower.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 6:14 pm to
one more plug for mail order natives

LINK

I received a pair of hibiscus grandiflorus and a pair of Elliott asters; their care in packaging and the size and health of their plants especially for the price is a revelation. Quick shipping too. This will be my go to for hard to find natives
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 6:22 pm to
Pawpaw sun/shade update:

The internet will tell you that young pawpaws need protection from full summer sun, especially in zone 9. Still other sources will tell you they only need protection until they reach a height of 18-24 inches. And yet others will say the full sun/shade thing with pawpaws is a complete myth (in certain zones, sometimes including 9).

I have three young pawpaws (heat tolerant cultivars Mango, Susquehanna, and Sunflower) in my front yard. They don't get all day sun but they do get about 6 hours including the hottest part of the day and afternoon. It has been consistently 90F in the shade this week, so direct sun temps are significantly higher.

At the start of spring, I built shade cloth frames over them thinking I would prevent them from burning. Somewhere along the way I decided to just let it ride.

Here's how they look getting a good dose of full blast 9a summer sun:







The last one is Sunflower and leafed out very late, so it's catching up. Bottom line is these look great so far. They are on irrigation and get watered on hot days. I'll keep an eye on them as summer progresses to see if they stay looking this good. At this point I would say that pawpaws around 2 feet tall don't need shade protection in 9a as long as you keep them mulched and watered. This is great because KSU has undeniably demonstrated that they fruit much better in full sun.

I have no idea if this would hold true in 9a for cultivars not considered heat tolerant, but I doubt it.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 6:53 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 6:58 pm to
funny you posted this today I came to the same conclusion. Mine are all 18-20” and I went to check on them today at solar max. Only one of them shows any limpness at all, and it’s one of the last two planted. The rest of them look great, I gave everyone a good dose of water and let them be

I have a tree guy coming next week to take down a dead pine I’m going to have him trim the oaks around my patch and let a bit more sun in
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:06 pm to
That's 2 data points. Seems as if the "plant them in shade" thing is mostly false. Hope I'm not eating these words in August.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:14 pm to
the one that was a little distressed is a Shenandoah. Just went to check it (it’s in shade now) and it looks fine it probably just needed water


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:41 pm to
That's even smaller than mine and it looks great. We may really be onto something here. Will take a few years but preliminary results are encouraging.

And to anyone wondering, pawpaw qualifies for the tropical fruit thread because it tastes more like a tropical fruit than tropical fruits do.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:22 am to
the tree growing the least is also the one getting the least amount of sun. This one is a seedling that’s been in the ground since Feb, the other 4 are twice that size



instead of trimming I’m just going to take this whole oak out, it’s on the south facing end of the patch. That will open it up a bit. Like you said if sunburn becomes an issue it’s easy enough to add temp shade



when mine get to be 4-6’ tall the tops will get pretty much full sun
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 6:58 pm to
Well I got my box from backyard mangos. Not familiar with many of these names.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 8:48 pm to
You've got a very good intro mix. The best thing in that box is Cac IMO. You should look each one up on the tropical acres website before tasting to get an idea of what it is.

I do not know enough about these varieties to give an opinion as to whether they were picked too early or not.

Glenn, Bailey' Marvel, Haden and Cac are my favorites in that group.

I am down to my last Orange Sherbet but a box of Pickering arrives tomorrow. Mine are still weeks away.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 9:35 pm to
White Indonesian seedless guava from Incredible Edible Landscapes arrived today. Very well packaged and healthy looking, but the entire pot was infested with ants. Had no choice but to bare root and repot immediately. Made the seller aware. There is no situation ever where it is appropriate for a nursery to sell plants with major insect infestations. Luckily guavas are tough and I'd be shocked if it doesn't make it, especially after escaping the garbage bark-based soil it was shipped in.







Before work this morning I pruned a big branch of Oliver loquat and impulsively decided to try to graft it onto a loquat seedling in my back yard. Graft was sloppy but who knows, maybe it works. If not, I'll let the rootstock recover and try again. This seedling was trying to grow tall and straight up with almost no branching, not something I'm interested in. Would be great if I can turn it into Oliver.

This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 9:43 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 10:27 pm to
that’s fricked up, and also how non native insects get spread around. Did you kill the ants?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 4:51 am to
Way too many to kill. Thousands. Just had to blast all the soil off with the hose.
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