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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:01 pm to
Rajapuri banana flower should appear tomorrow or Monday. Really hoping the biggest super El Nino of all time can help me this winter.


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:05 pm to
Lastly, planted 2 Pickering mango seeds for rootstock today. Will graft mature Pickering on when they are 1g size. Mango seeds are 100X easier to de-husk than white sapote.

This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:38 pm to
Actually... that wasn't the last update..... On the way inside I noticed...



MANGO COLOR BREAK



Time to deploy the fruit protection devices.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:39 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:46 pm to
here are my tropicals, all looking pretty good

Barbados Cherry



Cherry of the Rio Grande



Lemon Guava


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:47 pm to
Squirrels got to 2 of my 3 mangos last year. This year I'm going for 11/11.



Pickering is especially susceptible to mammal pests because it needs to tree ripen for best flavor. Many mangos can be picked as soon as you see color break. Not Pickering. It will be a bright orange/red beacon before I pick it.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:46 pm to
All looking good. My COTRG has caught up to yours. Still very excited about the potential for this tree. If it can survive 12F in east Texas it can survive here.

Lemon guava is starting to branch nicely. Good call on putting the t-stake in now. I posted this 100 pages ago about lemon guava it let me repeat it so you know. The first year that it really starts fruiting heavily it's going to do something that will confuse you. It will flower profusely and set hundreds of fruit. The fruit will then start growing, especially if you thin them. Then, in June, all the fruit will stop growing. The interior leaves on the tree will all start turning yellow and dropping. You will likely lose A LOT of leaves. You'll be convinced that something is wrong and start spraying insecticides, fungicides, and fertilizing. Just ignore it. It does this weird leaf recycle process right in the middle of its fruit production. I have no idea why. It then starts pushing new vegetative growth (with even more flowers) and the fruit starts swelling again and begins to ripen in July/August.

Also I saw a cool video about dwarf Orinoco today that I meant to send you.

Dwarf Orinoco

This is the guy I bought my Veinte Cohol pup from.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 2:51 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 9:51 pm to
nice

I got the rajapuri and a namwah from him. Both are super healthy and thick trunks. Seems like a good dude and he knows bananas

I’m excited for the cherries and the guava. I put the t-post in yesterday after seeing the size of your tree. That little stake I had in there wasnt going to cut it. Damn thing grows a couple inches a day
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

I got the rajapuri and a namwah from him. Both are super healthy and thick trunks. Seems like a good dude and he knows bananas


Then you've got the real McCoy. He actually cares about the varieties and the money he makes selling pups is negligible. Honestly I have more faith in the authenticy of your rajapuri than mine.

quote:

I put the t-post in yesterday after seeing the size of your tree. That little stake I had in there wasnt going to cut it. Damn thing grows a couple inches a day

Yep. Wants to be a big floppy spreading mess.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:45 am to
Go time for Rajapuri. Programmed the automatic irrigation on it today.



Spice Zee nectaplum finally aborted the last of its fruit. At least it's starting to flush new leaves. That's what 2 straight weeks of non-stop constant rain and heat will do to stone fruit. It takes about 8 hours of sustained wetness for fungal spores to establish and infect. We had probably 10X that and I'm not going out to spray copper in the ongoing rain. I sprayed this tree a ton both before and after the rainy weeks and a couple of times during. A cautionary tale for those dreaming of peaches and nectarines. I know others have different experiences but I can grow mangos (also susceptible to fungi) in 9a easier than peaches.



On a positive note, my Emperor lychee put on a nice flush of new growth and looks very happy. This means my water filter and extremely weak fertilizer regimen are working.



94F high today, baws. Keep em watered.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 9:14 am to
quote:

my Emperor lychee put on a nice flush


Looks great. I pulled my two year old Sweetheart Lychee out of the ground and put it in a pot hoping to give it some TLC. It just wasn’t working where it was. It was really small and hadn’t grown an inch since I bought it. It summarily died less than a week later. If I do it again I’m going with a larger 15 gallon tree.

I suspect over the coming months I’m going to be removing a few more. I think I’m done with apples and peaches. The Super Hass Avocado I planted back in April looks like shite. Has lost most of its leaves. Meanwhile Oro Negro and Brogdon look great. Not sure if this is normal for Super Hass. May hit up the nursery that sold it to me and see what they think.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Go time for Rajapuri. Programmed the automatic irrigation on it today.
following along please be detailed on water, food etc. I’m waiting for a couple rainy days to get all of mine in the ground. Looks like it may rain tomorrow and Tuesday

I have a sprinkler set up in the bed I can easily turn on without having to hose drag.

I put about 6” of top dressing (bark, manure, sand) and underneath it is black soil that stays pretty moist unless we have a midsummer drought





if there’s anything else I should do let me know.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:30 am to
Any idea what factor was stunting your lychee? Did it have mite damage?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:33 am to
Tree ripened Makok sapodilla came off today. Will give it a couple of days inside to finish.



Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 10:38 am to
quote:

if there’s anything else I should do let me know.

It's bananas. Impossible to screw up. You'll see. Likes heat, humidity, water, sunlight, and fertilizer. Hates the opposites. Main thing is you want to push one stalk of each variety as hard as you can before winter to get size on it and protect it.
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:18 pm to
Backyard Mangos


I tried another sweet tarts. Much better than the first. Also had a Philippine and it was really enjoyable. Wish it was a tad sweeter but I liked the bright tartness
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Any idea what factor was stunting your lychee? Did it have mite damage?


I think it was probably an air layered tree that went straight from being cut off the mother plant and into a pot, then soon thereafter into the ground. I doubt the roots had really had much time to develop before I planted it. It was very small and in a 3 gallon when I got it. At the time; larger trees weren’t really available.

I also got some poor advice and was told to plant it between two lemongrass plants. The rationale is that supposedly the lemongrass is a natural deterrent for insects and mites. Turns out the lemongrass grows so damn fast that it competes for nutrients and as the grass grows so tall; eventually it shaded the tree. Just not a setup for success.

I’m seeing larger lychee trees available now. Might try again; although a lot of people in this area are sort of giving up on lychees. Between the alternate bearing, mites and poor production it seems like they are better suited to SoFL. Some people are switching over to growing Longans; I’m just not a huge fan of that fruit.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:28 pm to
Longan is certainly easier but I agree that it doesn't touch lychee. I will say this: as long as you can protect them from significant freezes lychees LOVE zone 9. They get all the requisite chill hours and flower like crazy.

I would love to grow sweetheart or Hak Ip, but they are all just such gangly lanky trees. Will be Emperor all the way for me.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 10:36 am to
bananas installed...overcast rainy week ahead so they should get a good start.



one of them dropped a fruit though, i assume this is normal?
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:17 pm to
Well I had my first casualty of overwatering today. I have this Silver Bay Aglaonema that I bought about 5 monhs ago at Lowes and it just started to look odd and it was not taking any water. I had not watered it in almost a month and the soil was still wet. It had some kind of weird soil from Lowes. It was not regular potting mix. It was almost like the texture of Skoal or powder. Just very odd. I should have repotted it earlier but I waited too long

When I broke it down out of the pot, it came out in 3 pieces and two of them were totally rotted. I picked off as much of the dead as I could, sprayed them with hundred percent hydrogen peroxide, then dip them in a peroxide water mix for a couple of minutes. I repotted them in some potting soul mixed with perlite. I also put root stimulater on the root area and mixed a little in the mix. We will see if it survives or dies a horrible death.





I also trimmed up the shells from my new bottle palms and my flame thrower Just carefully took a razer knife and trimmed off the dead skins. That's the first time I've done that on either of those. I have two bottle palms that I bought during the cold weather this year at Home Depot for $20 apiece. They were supposed to be $70 apiece, but they looked bad and now they look awesome. One of my little bottle palms has five healthy fronds and a new spike.





A friend of mine gave me a pup off his spider plant. It laid in the floorboard of my wife's car for about a week before she even reminded me that it was in there. I planted it a few months ago, and it was about the size of a tennis ball. That thing has absolutely taken over and is going crazy. I've been watering it almost every day and it's completely dry the next day so I repotted it this morning. I would say the roots are doing well. Ha ha.







My sago that I transplanted about 6 weeks ago seems to like its new spot. Have some great new growth going on





And last but not least, the lipstick is still doing well. I just wish I had more info about how to care for it. Not a lot of info out there. I am keeping it watered often, I have a drip pan under it and I try to always have a little water in there. I have a spray bottle sitting right beside it and Im spraying it down a time of two everyday. I also have sat it out in the rain in the afternoons to let it get a bath. Just weird how the leaves are doing. I have some stems coming up where there are two or three leaves on there and two of them are absolutely perfect and then the other one will split right down the middle. Just can't figure out what's splitting them. It's not getting a lot of windand no direct sun


Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:43 pm to
its time to clip off all those pups at the ends of the arms. just clip them off, set each one face up in a seed pot of soil keep watered and keep in the shade. pretty soon you'll have that many new plants. next time you re pot you can also split the mother plant. i have a bunch of those in the ground they love a semi-shady spot. they'll die back in winter but come right back
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