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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:07 am to Tigerlaff
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:07 am to Tigerlaff
You got me wanting a Cecilove now. Where did you get the 3, you have. I know one was rough shape to start. But it seems to have a good flavor profile as well as disease resistance for our climate and dwarf habit ..
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 12:16 pm to DickTater
potted up 4 more bananas today, i dug up the two biggest dwarf cavendish pups i had and they look good. this is best they've looked maybe ever with all this rain, so i'll either leave in pots or plant in a better spot. its a pretty plant
got a dwarf orinoco and a dwarf namwah off etsy, i'd forgotten i ordered these. hopes were not high but they actually look great.
so all in i only wound up with one plant i'm not going to use, and it was namwah anyway so i'm good. i'm planting the ones that are ready to go this week
got a dwarf orinoco and a dwarf namwah off etsy, i'd forgotten i ordered these. hopes were not high but they actually look great.
so all in i only wound up with one plant i'm not going to use, and it was namwah anyway so i'm good. i'm planting the ones that are ready to go this week
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:52 pm to DickTater
quote:
You got me wanting a Cecilove now. Where did you get the 3, you have. I know one was rough shape to start. But it seems to have a good flavor profile as well as disease resistance for our climate and dwarf habit ..
First one I got from an Etsy seller that recently stopped selling outside of Florida. I accidentally killed it by dropping a shovel on it.
The second I bought from LetsGrowFlorida on Etsy, who in turn sourced the tree from Tropical Acres. This is the one that arrived in bad shape and that I have now rehabbed in a pot. When this showed up I realized it would be months before I could put it in the ground and ordered a new tree.
The third tree came from Tropical Acres directly and was in great shape. Went straight into the ground. They do not have any in stock at the moment.
I think Cecilove might be the "best" container mango tree for a 9a climate outside of the sheer productivity of Pickering. Cecilove is a true dwarf, has acceptable disease resistance, and has what would be considered by the mango snobs as elite flavor. They sneer at Pickering but no one is scoffing at Cecilove. Is it really the perfect tree for us? I don't know but we're gonna find out. Might as well do it with me.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 2:46 pm to Tigerlaff
Great. I’ve checked all the normal
Places, and it appears Lara farms has a one gallon size for 85..but idk if I want to start with that small of a plant!
Other online Etsy sellers are north of 140 for a 3g yikes!
Not sure what to do
Places, and it appears Lara farms has a one gallon size for 85..but idk if I want to start with that small of a plant!
Other online Etsy sellers are north of 140 for a 3g yikes!
Not sure what to do
Posted on 6/8/26 at 2:52 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:. Thoughts on Little Gem? That seems like the best to me.
I think Cecilove might be the "best" container mango tree for a 9a climate outside of the sheer productivity of Pickering. Cecilove is a true dwarf, has acceptable disease resistance, and has what would be considered by the mango snobs as elite flavor. They sneer at Pickering but no one is scoffing at Cecilove. Is it really the perfect tree for us? I don't know but we're gonna find out. Might as well do it with me.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:42 pm to Neauxla
quote:
Thoughts on Little Gem?
It’s a stellar tree. Absolutely amongst the most disease resistant varieties I’ve encountered. A true dwarf variety and super productive.
The Little Gem is also unique in that it’s a late season mango that’s got a West Indian flavor profile; almost all West Indian varieties are early or mid-season mangoes.
I really enjoy it; but, will confess that M-4 has sort of stole its thunder in recent years. Both are late season and the M-4 has a more pronounced coconut flavor which seems all the rage currently. I have both in my grove to extend my harvest season all the way into August/September.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:51 pm to DickTater
quote:
Lara farms has a one gallon size for 85..but idk if I want to start with that small of a plant!
Other online Etsy sellers are north of 140 for a 3g yikes!
Not sure what to do
1g trees have to be babied. They dry out quickly, get scorching hot at the roots quickly, and fungal disease can take out a huge portion of the overall foliage quickly. But people do it every day and you can too as long as you're careful.
$140 for a 3g shipped is about what I paid back in January. Demand is at an all time high. The 2026 freeze wiped out so many trees and people want to replace them with elite varieties. They can't graft them fast enough and Cecilove is not really a common tree yet. I would pay for the 3g or start/buy a cheap seedling and try to buy Cecilove budwood from a legit seller and graft it yourself. Mango is very easy to graft.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:55 pm to Neauxla
quote:
Thoughts on Little Gem? That seems like the best to me.
Everything wiltz said. Fantastic variety and my decision would be made based on whether I wanted an East Indian/coconut flavor profile or an Indochinese flavor profile. I need to post the Alex Salazar videos on flavor groups. They are extremely useful. I'll try to dig them up.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:01 pm to Tigerlaff
Mango flavor group profiles with Alex Salazar:
Indochinese
Coconut
Citrus
Thai
Indian-Alphonso
Indian-West Indian
Pineapple
Classic
Boom, got em.
Indochinese
Coconut
Citrus
Thai
Indian-Alphonso
Indian-West Indian
Pineapple
Classic
Boom, got em.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:40 pm to Tigerlaff
Atemoyas coming along and Taiwan ruby seedless guava preparing to bloom.
After almost 90 days, I finally got one of my Chamaedorea radicalis seeds to germinate. Palms take forever.
After almost 90 days, I finally got one of my Chamaedorea radicalis seeds to germinate. Palms take forever.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:16 am to Tigerlaff
Okay been doing some digging.
Utopia trees out of California is getting a big restock of mango on Sunday. They ship. I’ve previously bought from them (Reed avocado) very nice tree and actually solid soil grow mix.
Not sure what sizes in what varieties, but from their online shop they have over 50. They will ship 7g.
So think I’m going to wait and see what they offer then.
I think im going cecilove over cogshal or little gem, as it seems the flavor profile is squarely different than my 2 other varieties.
Laff, online reviews seem to say it’s even slower growing than any other dwarf variety, what’s been you’re experience, big difference in potted vs in ground?
Utopia trees out of California is getting a big restock of mango on Sunday. They ship. I’ve previously bought from them (Reed avocado) very nice tree and actually solid soil grow mix.
Not sure what sizes in what varieties, but from their online shop they have over 50. They will ship 7g.
So think I’m going to wait and see what they offer then.
I think im going cecilove over cogshal or little gem, as it seems the flavor profile is squarely different than my 2 other varieties.
Laff, online reviews seem to say it’s even slower growing than any other dwarf variety, what’s been you’re experience, big difference in potted vs in ground?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:16 am to Tigerlaff
I'm in Houston. Do you think a jaboticaba has to be in a pot? If it is protected from wind will it survive a Houston winter?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:23 pm to DickTater
quote:
I think im going cecilove over cogshal or little gem, as it seems the flavor profile is squarely different than my 2 other varieties.
Cecilove and Little Gem would both be great. The taste of Cogshall is not worth it in my opinion.
quote:
Laff, online reviews seem to say it’s even slower growing than any other dwarf variety, what’s been you’re experience, big difference in potted vs in ground?
No difference. Slow growing dwarf, which is great.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:27 pm to Houstiger
quote:
I'm in Houston. Do you think a jaboticaba has to be in a pot? If it is protected from wind will it survive a Houston winter?
Would it survive A Houston winter? Sure. But every few years (2021) y'all get absolutely smoked with colder temps than even I see. The numbers for jabo cold tolerance are all over the place but the consensus I've sort of settled on is 22F in the ground 25F in pots.They can probably take colder but I'm not finding out.
But you honestly don't want a jabo in the ground. They do better in pots. They will look better and fruit better because all varieties except Sabara need pretty acidic soil and frequent clean (ideally filtered) water. They can live in pots forever without problem and are maybe the best container tree out there.
In south Florida you see people digging them out of the ground to put into large pots.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:47 pm to Tigerlaff
Meiwa kumquat setting a 2nd crop. I absolutely love this tree for so many reasons. It's now challenging for my #1 favorite citrus.
Mangos sizing up. Applied a dose of 0-0-22 langbeinite for the home stretch. Next 7 days are 90F+ and dry. Perfect mango ripening conditions!
The spring flowering loquat has recovered from shipping. This is going to be a multi year project. But if it actually works and skips winter, wow.
Mangos sizing up. Applied a dose of 0-0-22 langbeinite for the home stretch. Next 7 days are 90F+ and dry. Perfect mango ripening conditions!
The spring flowering loquat has recovered from shipping. This is going to be a multi year project. But if it actually works and skips winter, wow.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:54 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:
Meiwa kumquat
When I was a kid it seemed like everybody had a kumquat tree in their yard. My grandma in Mobile had one and we would sit outside and eat them all day. I can't remember the last time I've seen one in the ground. Have the growing zones changed so much that they no longer survive here?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:03 pm to Loup
No. Kumquats are very hardy. Can we get cold enough to kill them in 9a? Yes, but it's rare and you can't attribute the loss of them all to cold. We are talking extended low teens to kill them to the ground. I think it's more that people stopped growing things and trees eventually died or more likely got taken over by trifoliate rootstock.
FWIW there is a very nice in ground one in my neighborhood. 6 feet tall and makes buckets of fruit.
The Nagami is the more common one. I've grown it before both in containers and in ground. The flavor of meiwa is far superior. Also I do almost zero pruning; it grows into the perfect shape naturally.
FWIW there is a very nice in ground one in my neighborhood. 6 feet tall and makes buckets of fruit.
The Nagami is the more common one. I've grown it before both in containers and in ground. The flavor of meiwa is far superior. Also I do almost zero pruning; it grows into the perfect shape naturally.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:06 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:
The Nagami is the more common one. I've grown it before both in containers and in ground. The flavor of meiwa is far superior. Also I do almost zero pruning; it grows into the perfect shape naturally.
For nostalgia's sake I might get one to replace my Brown's Satsuma. The fruit from it have never been sweet, it gets one more chance this year and then it is getting hacked.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:19 pm to Loup
Agree. These mfers have to work to stay. This ain't no plant charity. Anyway can't recommend meiwa enough. Such an easy, gorgeous, hardy, delicious, and productive tree. As a bonus leaf miners don't like kumquat leaves.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:53 pm to Tigerlaff
I had a massive kumquat growing here when we moved 20 years ago it made fruit 2x a year buy the bucketful. I never protected it at all and it never blinked, but it did go into decline over several years and finally died last year. Whether it was the freeze or old age or both I don’t know.
But I did plant a new one in the spring and it’s now covered in fruit
But I did plant a new one in the spring and it’s now covered in fruit
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