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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 5/24/26 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 11:38 am to
Yes that is a dead ringer for dwarf Cavendish.
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:35 pm to
Kari starfruit getting after it.

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:24 pm to
today’s ditch haul for the jungle bed…blue irises and rose mallow



Installed. I got a big ole root of the hibiscus so hopefully next year I’ll have a good stand





This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 3:10 pm to
Nice. Maybe some Texas star hibiscus too? They love wet areas in my yard.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 3:20 pm to
Looks like the ones I dug up are Hibiscus aculeatus (comfortroot). I do have some rose mallow (white flower with red eye) starts coming in the mail; I looked up Texas Star I like that also.

the comfortroot was growing in the same ditch as the irises so hopefully it likes the new spot
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 8:29 am to
PSA: big selection of grafted pawpaws back in stock for shipping. Great prices.
Off the Beaten Path Nursery
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:36 am to
nice...i'm doing a little pawpaw research now on this rainy day.
are you aware of a list of cultivars by early or late bloom time?

trying to learn about this as much as i can before i choose cultivars to graft on the seedlings. i have room for nine trees in the patch, and i already have a potomac and a benson. i'll probably leave two of the seedlings as is to help with cross fertilization. so that will leave me with 5 trees to select, 3 to graft and 2 to buy. i'd like to buy 2 from that place
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 10:45 am to
quote:

are you aware of a list of cultivars by early or late bloom time?


I am not but this would be a great task for an AI like Claude.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 11:12 am to
this is what google pulls

Cultivar Bloom Timelines
While comprehensive, cultivar-specific bloom dates are not heavily documented, the general bloom characteristics by variety cluster together based on ripening times:

Early/Mid-Season Bloomers: Includes varieties like Shenandoah, Pennsylvania Golden (#1), and Sunflower. These tend to flower in early-to-mid April (depending on your latitude) and precede early-ripening fruits.

Mid/Late-Season Bloomers: Includes varieties like KSU-Atwood, Susquehanna, Wabash, and Potomac. These flowers often open slightly later in mid-to-late April and produce fruit that ripens later in the fall.

looks like i could buy a sunflower and shenandoah, and add an atwood?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/25/26 at 12:28 pm to
I have all 3 of those you identified and I chose them because they have a good chance of fruiting this far south. Sunflower specifically will take our heat. Mango and Tropical Treat too.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 2:59 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:28 pm to
I called whitetail hill and confirmed the bare root pawpaws I planted were wild seedlings; it looks like there are two main types of the five, 2 are dark green with narrow leaves and three are lime green with wider leaves. I’m going to leave one of each ungrafted.





The Shenandoah and Sunflower should be here tomorrow. The Potomac and Benson look great. They seem to like the spot so far

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 2:33 pm to
Tropicals are not minding this steady rain at all.

Barbados cherry



Rio Grande



Guava

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 3:06 pm to
Yeah I would definitely leave a couple of the pawpaws ungrafted. Good for pollination of the select varieties and you might discover a great new cultivar! Plus you can always graft them later. I like to graft single branches sometimes so that one tree has 2 varieties. For example, I have a seedling of Collins (which should be decent considering the parent) and a Shenandoah branch grafted into it.

Man that COTRG looks better than mine. Clearly it's getting way more sun. Lemon guava doing its thing too; well on the way.

Your trees look great man. That is one great thing about these tropicals. Until we hit upper 90s to over 100F they laugh at our heat. And if they are well watered they can take it all. Nice to have things that don't burn up and ruin the season.

And then winter comes.

My red hybrid jaboticaba just won't stop producing. Been going continuously for 3 months now.





Can't wait until my sabara starts producing. Hopefully in the next 2-3 years.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 3:13 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:56 pm to


More Florida mangoes showing up. The price escalation is real. Seeing $7-10 per pound on average. In addition; a lot of them are smaller than usual. Undaunted; I picked up a pair of Glenn, a pair of Lemon Zest and a Carrie today.

Some much needed rain in recent days. Seeing lots of vegetative growth on some of the mangoes. CAC, P-22 and Kathy/K3 are all showing strong growth after the freeze.

Brogdon avocado is looking great. Holding fruit and adding new vegetative growth. The Super Hass/Oh La La dropped all of its fruit in the past week. Planted it only a few months ago; not worried about it.

Still sorting out my game plan moving forward. The reverse zone pushing is fun; but, hasn’t been very rewarding in terms of abundance or quality. The apples and peaches have been a bust. May have a few holes to fill this Fall.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:49 pm to


LINK

This one is just for fun. Had two Pinkerton avocados arrive today. Sort of a unique story. A chance seedling of a Rincon avocado named after the small family farm in California that patented it in the 70’s. Once considered a challenger to Hass its elongated neck pear shaped fruit was difficult to package and its inconsistent production led it to be largely forgotten today. It’s a fav among Cali yard growers because it’s got a high oil content, delicious flavor, great fruit to seed ratio and stays relatively compact.

They tried growing Pinkerton here in SoFL decades ago and gave up on them. Largely for the same reasons as Cali thinking the hot, humid conditions in SoFL plus hurricanes were just too much for them.

I doubt they’ll do great here in Central Florida; but, with climate change we’re seeing more extended dry periods like in Cali nowadays. Who knows? Maybe it’s Pinkerton’s time to shine. If it does well I hope to top work some existing trees.

This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:29 pm to
Love Glenn, Carrie, and obviously LZ. Great mangos. Glad y'all are getting some rain. We are nearly flooding as it hasn't stopped raining for a week. Any trace of drought has been thoroughly busted. Lots of fungal pressure. But the following are loaded up or getting there:

Pickering mango
Ruby supreme guava
Jalisco red guava
Dwarf guava nana
Lemon cattley guava
Unique feijoa
Improved Coolidge feijoa
Kari starfruit
Red hybrid jaboticaba
LSU Hollier fig
Makok sapodilla
Silas Wood sapodilla
Black Suriname cherry
Bounty passionfruit
Geffner atemoya
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:41 pm to
fyi I just stopped in at Harold’s plants over in the bywater and they have tons of native hibiscus as well as the “Cajun Hibiscus” which is pretty sought after. I picked up some roselle and Texas star

Very cool place, one of the nicest nurseries I’ve ever been to. I’m surprised I’d never heard of it
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:18 pm to
quote:


cgrand
fyi I just stopped in at Harold’s plants over in the bywater and they have tons of native hibiscus as well as the “Cajun Hibiscus” which is pretty sought after. I picked up some roselle and Texas star

Very cool place, one of the nicest nurseries I’ve ever been to. I’m surprised I’d never heard of it
only place I've found pumice stone too. but they carry the tiny size
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 6:05 pm to
What their price/volume on pumice?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:29 am to
MANGO WATCH 2026

I finally had to stake up my Pickering as the branches were bending badly under the weight of the fruit. I don't like driving 6 foot steel stakes into my rootballs until I have to. It was either that or start cutting fruit to reduce weight.







12 mangos holding. Wiltz, you think that's too many for this 25g tree? My season is obviously different from yours. Flowering starts earlier and development takes longer with cooler winter and spring temps. Last year my first ripe Pickering was the first week of July. I also had a staggered bloom where one side of the tree started nearly 2 months after the other side. I think 12 looks like about the max for this guy but would welcome your thoughts.

Here's the late side of the tree.



In ground Cecilove is pushing foliage. I am shocked and delighted that it didn't bloom with the cool weather in early May.



Potted Cecilove dropped its bloom and is doing nothing. Watching for new leaves since it's about time to force branching.

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