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Land Clearing question

Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted by DieSmilen
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:02 pm
My MIL is going to be donating some land to my wife but it needs to be subdivided. The property itself is 4 acres and she plans to give us just about two. The property has several large trees and some the Oaks/pines have fallen down over the years. I am thinking of having someone come in and just do basic clean up and mulching of anything that is down but not taking anything new down for now. Would this cause any future issue when its time to clear the pad homesite, with all the mulch and vegetation laying on top?
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:09 pm to
Do you plan to maintain it in any way?

It’s not much more for someone to come in and clear it and get it semi-ready vs just clean up.

Unless it’s just some slight underbrush that a guy with a bobcat and mulcher can knock out in a day or two.

You’ll end up paying twice. Just something to think about as you evaluate the costs.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38659 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:10 pm to
no

they will strip & grub under the homesite regardless
Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
191 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:22 pm to
Have a buddy that does this, has a skid steer, mulcher and a few other attachments if you're interested.
Posted by DieSmilen
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 3:10 pm to
I do plan to maintain it. Also, when I called the survey company they said it maybe cheaper if access was easier. The property is in Denham, off of hwy 16. Have no idea what I am looking at for just underbrush clearing.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4034 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 5:39 pm to
If you’re going to put a house, take out any trees needing to be removed, now
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

The property is in Denham, off of hwy 16

Get a flood elevation...make sure it's even worth it.
Posted by DieSmilen
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:13 pm to
It is not in a flood zone, according to FEMA. It didn’t flood in 2016. It was about a half mile on all sides from taking on water. It does make me nervous with all the new subdivisions being built.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1056 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 5:57 am to
quote:

t does make me nervous with all the new subdivisions being built.


Call a reputable survey company. Have them obtain a base flood elevation from the Corps, then have them get an elevation at the future home site. That will give you an idea of how high the dirt pad needs to be to put your lowest floor elevation 1’ above base flood. Trust me, it’s best to do this before you dump a lot of money into the property. We just finished a 32” high pad - 3200 yards of fill dirt isn’t cheap. FYI - our home site isn’t in a “flood zone” either.

ETA: I’ve been clearing brush with a circular saw blade on my weed eater, polesaw, and chainsaw for a couple of months. It’s hard but fun work and will make a helluva bonfire when conditions get right. If you can cut the logs into manageable portions, then haul into a pile with a truck and burn - will save you some money (probably).
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 6:01 am
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1314 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:52 am to
All property in Louisiana is in a flood zone just some better than others. It hurts my ears when someone says "my property is not in a flood zone" which is simply not true.

I call flood zones the good, the bad and the ugly. The good is Zones B,C or X which have no elevation requirement for the structures lowest floor. The bad is Zone A with a number or letter after it. The ugly is Zone V which are coastal areas only. Zones V and A have a BFE "base flood elevation" associated with them which is the lowest elevation you can build to. A and V measure to different parts of the structure.

The BFE is usually determined by the flood plan administrator for the parish or city but surveyors will do this. There have been a few instances where the surveyor used an outdated map and got the BFE wrong so it might be good to double check the BFE. On occasion the BFE will be determined by Corps of Engineers but only if the property is in a zone A with no number or letter behind it.

Some communities have a freeboard requirement which is a elevation higher than the BFE so do your research.

I have seen tracts of land with multiple flood zones "B, C, X and A", so the obvious decision is not to build in any Zone A.

Maps are constantly updated so while your property may be in a Zone B,C or X today, it could change to a zone A at some point in time. In a zone A, Flood insurance is based on how high your lowest floor is compared to the BFE. Every foot you go above the BFE the cheaper the insurance with the same coverage.

As other have said, remove any down limbs, take out trees/stumps if in the footprint of the house, drive way or utilities, and clear brush around the old and new property lines, Cut the grass on the whole 4 acres.

If your structure is to be built in Zones B, C or X just because there is no BFE requirement, there is still a chance of flooding so build the dirt pad as high as you can afford and start the pad soon. A good dirt contractor will remove 4" to 6" of ground/dirt before hauling in any new dirt, so any mulch on top will be removed anyway. The removing 4-6" of dirt is the same with the top of the dirt pad when it comes time to build so plan accordingly.

As far as flood insurance goes if you are in Zones B,C or X with a mortgage flood insurance is usually optional. My advise is if it rains at the property get the flood insurance.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 9:21 am
Posted by DieSmilen
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:25 pm to
Thanks for all the good information. Hope to get clearing under way be end of month or middle of next.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2331 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

All property in Louisiana is in a flood zone just some better than others. It hurts my ears when someone says "my property is not in a flood zone" which is simply not true.


That's because the mortgage and real estate industry does a terrible job of actually informing people of their risk. Homebuyers are told if they are in Zone X, they aren't in a flood zone, i.e. 100 yr flood zone (1% chance flood). Simply meaning they used to not be required to carry flood insurance, which has changed somewhat due to Risk Rating 2.0. Houses have a 4% chance of a fire over the life of a 30 yr mortgage. Houses have a 6% chance of flooding over that same time frame if you are in a 500 yr flood zone (0.2% chance flood). Everyone has fire insurance, but only a small percentage have flood insurance in Zone X.
Posted by DieSmilen
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:08 pm to
It is in Zone X. Not sure if that will change with the large subdivision going up down the road. My current home is in X. I understand the risk. I don’t currently carry flood insurance in BR but will when I move to LP.
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1726 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 3:15 pm to
Bump. I hired a company to do the underbrush next week but have another question. Is there something I can spray after to help keep new things from growing. I dont have a big arse mower so I am thinking of trying to put something down to try and help from having tons of growth.
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
898 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:40 pm to
Die,
If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the cost looking like to do what you need done?
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1726 posts
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:58 pm to
It was right at $4k. The total lot is 5 acres. Right at an acre is cleared already and I told them to leave me 50 or so feet buffer in the back between the new subdivision going up. Its 3.5 acres in the quote and they hope to have it finished in three days. I was hoping for right at 3,000 but can’t be to mad since I had no idea of what to expect. They are just doing all the under brush, small trees and anything that is already down.
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
898 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:34 am to
Thanks Die. About to have to do the same, probably the same amount of land with brush and logs from fallen trees.
Posted by Jaspermac
Texas
Member since Aug 2018
410 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:13 am to
You can keep it somewhat tamed by spraying the new sprouts but this will be a continuous effort.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5827 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 2:05 am to


Katy Tree Service. I've used them twice since IDA and they are top notch.

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