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re: First time home buyer - is a foundation issue found during inspection a dealbreaker?

Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:47 pm to
YEP
Posted by 0
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:53 pm to
Even simple foundation problems can cost a boatload to fix. I would steer clear.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:54 pm to
Is this house in one of those neighborhood developments where all the houses look the same?

There's a huge influx of poorly built houses in the past 15 years or so. Developers go in, clear out the land, pour a couple loads of dirt then start building instantly. Those dirt plots need years to sit before building.

I would run if you see cracks in the foundation. Like others say, there are tons of houses out there you and your wife will fall in love with.

If it's in your budget get a custom built house and not one of those developer homes.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:56 pm to
Stair step cracks aren’t necessarily the end of the world

Straight horizontal cracks are big time, bad news
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:00 pm to
Depending on the degree of the issue, if you are taking out a loan for purchase, you may not even be allowed to buy the home

foundation issues are a big deal
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:01 pm to
Being only 9 years old and having that issue already tells me it was poorly built
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
stopped reading at subject line
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is a foundation issue found during inspection a dealbreaker?

oh holy hell yes GTFO yesterday.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7580 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

stair step crack

Hair-line crack - no problem, minor settling of footing on soils
Crack that breaks the mortar joint - maybe a problem, especially if it big enough to slide a coin into it and is still growing. If its not moving you could fix re-point the mortar joints.
quote:

vertical crack

That's a problem. Footing has deflected. Footing isn't designed to carry weight of the wall distributed over soils. If the soils are unstable, it will grow until the soils stabilize. Wet muck will never stabilize.

Disclaimer - I'm not a P.E. or geo-technical engineer.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:25 pm to
I wouldn’t walk away from every single foundation issue on a home purchase but I’d make damn sure that the seller fixed it before closing.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Picture I took. It’s a pier and beam style foundation and this crack was on the exterior wall in the crawl space.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:32 pm to
Your intuition is correct.

The right place will come to you both.

Move along.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16395 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:33 pm to
9 year old house is reason to be concerned. Why is it so young? Newly developed neighborhood or a rebuild? If rebuild, do other houses in area have similar issues?

quote:

vertical crack going straight through a cinderblock


This is a major red flag to me, but the structural engineer would be able to say if it's truly a major issue.

quote:

stair step crack


These are common and are rarely viewed as an issue until they begin to compromise bricks, cinderblocks, etc.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:36 pm to
It’s a newer neighborhood. House went for 340k but only 96/sqft which is cheap for the area by almost 10-15/sqft I’m thinking the foundation is the reason. The seller just had their own inspection done last month.
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6617 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:36 pm to
Walk away.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:38 pm to
If its an addition i could deal with it as long as pilings were put under it. If on the main foundation its more concerning. You will really know when theres a foundation issue,especially on these older homes, it will literally be cracked and the whole house will bend to the middle. An older home that has been there for 50 years and no big signs of foundation issues is normally going to be fine if its not already showing major issues.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2955 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:39 pm to
We just bought a 42 year old house that had a big tree very close. It had some cracks but no actual issues with the foundation settling or off kilter. We did contract a foundation person to put support under the slab after we removed the tree so that there would be no problems in the future. It was a minor preventative thing.

So case by case basis on whether or not it is a deal breaker....not all are bad and certainly get a reputable foundation guy out there to inspect it and give his opinion. They do more than look at the cracks, they examine whether or not the slab has actually moved and if there are visible signs of major issues.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71452 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

House went for 340k


If you are spending this kind of money, I'd look for something else.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

House we loved had a crack in the front of the house to the foundation and we worried about the same thing. Home inspector came and had a structural guy look too. Both weren't worried at all about it and said it had a very solid foundation.


My house has several hairlines. Two structural engineers said the same thing - it's not an issue at all.

Edit: house was built in '90
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119174 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:42 pm to
I wouldn't buy a home with a foundation issue. Unless you were sure it could be repaired, and it was repaired as a condition of your home purchase.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:44 pm to
At the very least, get structural engineers to evaluate and give written reports. If your intuition tells you to walk away, then walk away.
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