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CFL to LED for can lights?
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:14 pm
When our house was built (2016) the builder put CFLs in the can lights in our kitchen. They are starting to burn out, and I'm wondering if I can replace them with LEDs.
The current bulbs are Philips Mini Twister self ballasted, 900 lumens.
I think I remember reading somewhere that at one time LEDs weren't recommended for can lights because the majority of heat is produced at the base and so it gets "trapped" in the top of the can and burns the bulb out quicker.
The current bulbs are Philips Mini Twister self ballasted, 900 lumens.
I think I remember reading somewhere that at one time LEDs weren't recommended for can lights because the majority of heat is produced at the base and so it gets "trapped" in the top of the can and burns the bulb out quicker.
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 9:43 pm to PJinAtl
I have LED in a bunch of can lights at my house.
No issues that I’ve noticed.
No issues that I’ve noticed.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 11:35 pm to bbvdd
Thanks
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:33 am to PJinAtl
I have all LED bulbs in all our can lights.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:03 am to PJinAtl
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I think I remember reading somewhere that at one time LEDs weren't recommended for can lights because the majority of heat is produced at the base and so it gets "trapped" in the top of the can and burns the bulb out quicker.
They produce less heat than a ballast does in my experience, much less than an incandescent.
I had cans with incandescent, I now have all LEDs. You have options, you will need to figure out which you prefer.
I used something like this.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-6-in-Selectable-CCT-Integrated-LED-Retrofit-Ultra-Slim-White-Recessed-Light-Trim-91847/318072106
Prices seem to have risen quite a bit from when I did this.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:40 am to PJinAtl
We changed over a dozen in a house a few weeks ago. Remember, LED lights have a switch to set brightness. Make sure you like the brightness on the first one, then set all the others to the same setting.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 12:06 pm to PJinAtl
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I think I remember reading somewhere that at one time LEDs weren't recommended for can lights because the majority of heat is produced at the base and so it gets "trapped" in the top of the can and burns the bulb out quicker.
Depends on the type of LED bulb. Some don't like being in enclosed fixtures, ceiling cans often have insulation sitting over them which can definitely build enough heat to shorten the life of the bulb. I would replace the cans with flat dimmable LED modules and put them on a compatible dimmer switch. I have done this dozen of times as well as added them in rooms with no recessed lighting originally. I am looking into the new low-voltage models for my living room, basically one light is hooked up to 120v and the rest downstream run on lower voltage. Simplifies wiring a great deal and should result in less heat and longer life of the modules.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 2:00 pm to PJinAtl
PSA: a lot of recyclers stopped accepting old CFLs - which can contain a lot of mercury - but I believe that every Lowe's accepts them per corporate policy.
Posted on 4/7/24 at 10:05 pm to LSUDad
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Remember, LED lights have a switch to set brightness. Make sure you like the brightness on the first one, then set all the others to the same setting.
I think you're actually referring to color temperature. A lot of the newer ones have an adjustment from 2700k-5000k. Lower on the end is warmer light (more yellow) and higher is cooler light (more blue). For bedrooms and living rooms, 2700k or 3000k is preferable. For kitchens, garages, closets, 4000k isn't as uncomfortable on the eyes.
Remember that our eyes evolved our sleeping patterns according to sunlight. So don't put any "daylight" colored (5000k) bulbs in areas you want to rest in, like a bedroom.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:59 am to bapple
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Remember, LED lights have a switch to set brightness. Make sure you like the brightness on the first one, then set all the others to the same setting. I think you're actually referring to color temperature. A lot of the newer ones have an adjustment from 2700k-5000k. Lower on the end is warmer light (more yellow) and higher is cooler light (more blue). For bedrooms and living rooms, 2700k or 3000k is preferable. For kitchens, garages, closets, 4000k isn't as uncomfortable on the eyes
Sorry, yes this. We put them on the brighter setting, then installed a dimmer.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:48 am to LSUDad
We are in the midst of a complete kitchen redo.
We opted for 2 rows of 6 lights each.
We went with metal frames, 4" size, set the color to 2700k which I think looks fantastic and they have the "Halo" eyes which turn on a nightlight ring around them when you flip them off and on within 5 seconds.
We absolutely installed a nice lutron dimmer as well.
So far I'm very pleased with the result.
We opted for 2 rows of 6 lights each.
We went with metal frames, 4" size, set the color to 2700k which I think looks fantastic and they have the "Halo" eyes which turn on a nightlight ring around them when you flip them off and on within 5 seconds.
We absolutely installed a nice lutron dimmer as well.
So far I'm very pleased with the result.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:34 am to CAD703X
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We absolutely installed a nice lutron dimmer as well.
So far I'm very pleased with the result.
Just did this in my living room - IDK what it is about the LEDs on a dimmer, but something is just not right to my eyes. It's like I can see the frequency or something which sounds absurd. I just can't explain it any other way.
Dimmer is really nice and easy to install though.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:54 am to Spelt it rong
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- IDK what it is about the LEDs on a dimmer, but something is just not right to my eyes
LEDs have looked different since I got LASIK, but more so when I am looking at bright LEDs with a dark background. not sure if that's what you're experiencing. I know my light sensitivity got pretty jacked up but that's common.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:57 am to Spelt it rong
quote:
Just did this in my living room - IDK what it is about the LEDs on a dimmer, but something is just not right to my eyes. It's like I can see the frequency or something which sounds absurd. I just can't explain it any other way. Dimmer is really nice and easy to install though.
We found a setting they liked, used the dimmer in the family room, to tone down the lighting when the TV is on. Some, not all LED’s, won’t work with a dimmer.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:07 am to LSUDad
quote:a good dimmer like the lutron also has a 'gate' to lock down how much it dims when you turn it all the way down to prevent some of that flickering and other LED nonsense.
We found a setting they liked, used the dimmer in the family room, to tone down the lighting when the TV is on. Some, not all LED’s, won’t work with a dimmer.
not a perfect solution; but LEDs are far from 'incadescent level' plug and forget. we're going to keep dealing w/ different light, dimmable vs non-dimmable and CRI levels for years.
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:36 pm to CAD703X
High CRI LED's are available but $$$, I'm glad I stocked up on American-made heavy duty incandescents years ago, my bedside table lamps and desk lamps use them. My fiancée's mother is fanatical about using crappy, high-lumem LED's everywhere so I kept all the incandescents she wanted to throw away.
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