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2025 Lazy man's St. Aug to Bermuda
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:57 am
I've been wanting to leave this toxic relationship that I'm in with St. Aug. We made it through the hard times - large patch, drought stress/death, gray leaf, really been through it. After reading ronk's input on the post-snow lawn thread, I think it's time for a fresh start with bermuda.
I'm sure there have been or will be other threads on the "right way" to do it. This I guess would involve any combination of nuking, tilling, leveling, laying sod, etc. That's not this thread.
I am looking for the lazy man's approach. Here's my plan, any critique/suggestions?
1. Scalp down to the dirt when temps warm up (after threat of frost has passed, maybe mid-late march). Bag clippings and discard.
2. Weed-eat any denser patches of st aug left so that soil is mostly exposed.
3. Spread Royal TXD seed and starter fert
4. Water and wait, mow low and often once seed starts growing.
Thoughts?
I'm sure there have been or will be other threads on the "right way" to do it. This I guess would involve any combination of nuking, tilling, leveling, laying sod, etc. That's not this thread.
I am looking for the lazy man's approach. Here's my plan, any critique/suggestions?
1. Scalp down to the dirt when temps warm up (after threat of frost has passed, maybe mid-late march). Bag clippings and discard.
2. Weed-eat any denser patches of st aug left so that soil is mostly exposed.
3. Spread Royal TXD seed and starter fert
4. Water and wait, mow low and often once seed starts growing.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:15 pm to Sir Saint
The real lazy man way would be to mow at 1 inch and fert the hell out of your St Aug. The St Aug wouldn't like the cut or the fert and would get disease. Eventually you would have common bermuda blow in and start to take over.
Your way would work but without the seed being covered not all of it would germinate. Some St Aug would come back as well.
Your way would work but without the seed being covered not all of it would germinate. Some St Aug would come back as well.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:32 pm to Sir Saint
I've always thought of Bermuda as a vile weed outside of a golf course even though it seems to be getting more popular. I don't think any grass looks better than St. Aug. I follow the advice on here and cut it high and it looks great in the summer
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:34 pm to ronk
Save the money on the Royal TXD seed then? Was just kinda hoping it would be a better strain than wild common.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:44 pm to Cage Fighter Trainee
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That is a beaut. Mine used to look like this circa 2021. Then we had a really wet fall I think in 2022, and now I get large patch every fall and scars every spring (despite alternating fungicide, improving drainage, etc). Not to mention lugging my water hose around all summer 2023 during the drought. Just can’t deal anymore. I do still love the way a thick lush st aug lawn looks though
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:55 pm to Sir Saint
I mean throwing down seed is going to be much faster.
That is a good looking yard. I used to be a St Aug guy but now that take all patch is running rampant it has too many issues.
That is a good looking yard. I used to be a St Aug guy but now that take all patch is running rampant it has too many issues.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:23 pm to ronk
quote:
The real lazy man way would be to mow at 1 inch and fert the hell out of your St Aug. The St Aug wouldn't like the cut or the fert and would get disease. Eventually you would have common bermuda blow in and start to take over.
Are you saying to throw seeds down and mow at 1 inch? Would common bermuda just appear on its own?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:12 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
You don’t even have to throw seeds
Posted on 1/25/25 at 10:43 am to Sir Saint
How much common do you have in your yard now?
Converted my backyard that had about 20% bermuda last year.
Was still green until this week.
Never looked so good in January.
If you have some bermuda already just let it run.
Same with my front yard.Have another 35% of yard to fill in with bermuda this year.
Just water,fertilize and mow low and often.
Also if you don't want to full on level,buy some playsand when on sale and gradually fill in the low spots
Converted my backyard that had about 20% bermuda last year.
Was still green until this week.
Never looked so good in January.
If you have some bermuda already just let it run.
Same with my front yard.Have another 35% of yard to fill in with bermuda this year.
Just water,fertilize and mow low and often.
Also if you don't want to full on level,buy some playsand when on sale and gradually fill in the low spots
This post was edited on 1/25/25 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:09 pm to Sir Saint
Bumping
What time of the year should we be spreading the Bermuda seed?
What time of the year should we be spreading the Bermuda seed?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:21 pm to Cage Fighter Trainee
quote:bermuda is a noxious non-native invasive weed that is nearly impossible to control or eradicate.
I've always thought of Bermuda as a vile weed
on this hill, i die
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:35 am to good_2_geaux
quote:When lows are consistently above 65°
What time of the year should we be spreading the Bermuda seed?
We are getting there soon.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 6:44 am to Sir Saint
I cultivated a patch of common about half the size of a car to take over most of the yard in less than two summers, but I was mowing 2-4x per week and fertilizing every 7-14 days. So, not very “lazy”.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:01 am to bayoubengals88
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bayoubengals88
Looks great man!
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:03 am to cgrand
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bermuda is a noxious non-native invasive weed that is nearly impossible to control or eradicate. on this hill, i die
St Aug is a suicidal grass that can’t stand up to root rot, is extremely difficult to maintain reliably in areas prone to hard freezes and impossible to sustaim as a monostand grass in yards exposed to torpedo grass.
It’s a grass that without constant intervention and perfect conditions exists in a continual cycle of dead patches and regrowth regardless of chemical or other intervention.
At least Bermuda seems to want to exist.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:52 am to tide06
quote:
St Aug is a suicidal grass that can’t stand up to root rot, is extremely difficult to maintain reliably maintain in areas prone to hard freezes and impossible to maintain as a monostand grass in yards exposed to torpedo grass.
It’s a grass that without constant intervention and perfect conditions exists in a continual cycle of dead patches and regrowth regardless of chemical or other intervention.
At least Bermuda seems to want to exist.
Well said.
...and centipede is even worse than St. Aug.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 7:58 am to bayoubengals88
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I cultivated a patch of common about half the size of a car to take over most of the yard in less than two summers, but I was mowing 2-4x per week and fertilizing every 7-14 days. So, not very “lazy”.
Did you spray anything to kill the existing other grass? Or did the bermuda just eventually win?
I have a few bermuda patches in my front yard which is about 80% centipede and Im trying to promote the bermuda without killing it all and pissing off my HOA
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:12 am to Delacroix
quote:It was a combination. We had two massive trees previously so it was just weeds and carpet grass. I hit the carpet grass with the shovel and baking soda.
Did you spray anything to kill the existing other grass? Or did the bermuda just eventually win?
quote:You could easily piss them off using Quinclorac, but if you don't want to got that route just go heavier on nitrogen and super low and frequent mowing.
I have a few bermuda patches in my front yard which is about 80% centipede and Im trying to promote the bermuda without killing it all and pissing off my HOA
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 8:14 am
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:49 am to Cage Fighter Trainee
quote:Because it is.
I've always thought of Bermuda as a vile weed outside of a golf course
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