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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread

Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:48 pm to
I need some warm weather. My seedlings are creeping along.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 6:54 pm to
Be careful what you wish for . . .
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
14516 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 8:42 pm to
Right? I did say warm. Not scorching. That will be here soon enough.
This post was edited on 2/13/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 6:16 am to
It's been warm enough for us here, I'm just having trouble putting plants out because most of those warm days come with heavy rains.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 6:39 am to
We're in that Jekyll and Hyde part of the year where the weather doesn't seem to know what the heck it wants to do. It'll mid to upper 70's most of this week. Then back into the 30's this weekend. Then back into the upper 70's and even 80's next week. A dang roller coaster.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14204 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 7:28 am to
Like an idiot I put my tomato seedlings out in the sun on Sunday and forgot about them. Some of the leaves are turning white and they look sad. Will they recover?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:00 am to
Wait and see if some new, healthy growth pops up. They may end up ok.
Posted by MadtownTiger
Texas
Member since Sep 2010
4317 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 8:18 am to
Not Vegetable garden related but front yard garden.

Have any of y'all ever used a pollinator seed mix before? Redoing the front beds this spring and I'm going to be filling in a lot of spots with typical Texas native pollinator plants and then I was thinking about filling in the rest of the spaces with this seed mix. The top two seeds are Bluebonnets and Indian blankets so I know I won't be seeing any of those until next year. However, I figured it might be cheaper and more "wild" looking to have a bunch of native plants sprouting up.


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This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 8:19 am
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:30 am to
Yes but like you said some take a winter to germinate.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27676 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 10:04 am to
Every seed I planted germinated. 10/10!

I also ordered some pepper seeds. Gonna grow some hot cherry peppers and shishitos.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:22 pm to
I have reminders set up on my phone throughout the year to remind me when to fertilize certain things. Today I got one for citrus trees and blackberries. So if you haven't yet, now is a good time to do so.

For citrus trees LSU AgCenter recommends 13-13-13. For blackberries, ammonium sulfate.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5103 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Today I got one for citrus trees and blackberries

You fertilizing blackberries before fruiting? I always fed them after fruiting.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5772 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:57 pm to
I'm putting 4 citrus trees in the ground this weekend. 2 Owaris, 1 Brown select, and 1 Meyer lemon that I've had in a pot for the last 3 years that has done absolutely nothing.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

You fertilizing blackberries before fruiting? I always fed them after fruiting.


Yep, but it looks like I also misread my notification.
LINK

quote:

On newly established blackberry plantings, apply approximately 200 pounds per acre of a complete fertilizer such as 8-8-8, 10-20-10 or 13-13-13 as a side dressing in early spring. Applications of fertilizers relatively high in phosphorous (1-2-1 ratio) the first two years after planting should be beneficial. Fertilizer should be placed about 10 inches to the side of and slightly lower than the cuttings. Don’t apply fertilizer in the furrow where the crop is planted since fertilizer injury might occur.

Application of 300 to 500 pounds per acre of 8-8-8, 10-10-10 or 13-13-13 (11 pounds per 100 feet of row) as a side dressing should be made just before bud swell in the spring on established berry plantings. Broadcast fertilizer beginning about 20 inches from the plants to encourage a more extensive root system and to prevent injury to young, shallow feeder roots. A second applica- tion of fertilizer (200 pounds per acre or 5.5 pounds per 100 feet of row) should be made in June after harvest. Ammonium nitrate should be used at 1/3 rate of 10-10-10 fertilizer for soils that are high in phosphorus and potassium.

In early spring, home gardeners can use 4 to 6 ounces (1/2-3/4 cup) of 8-8-8 fertilizer or equivalent per plant broadcast evenly around the plant, starting about 9 inches from the stem and extending outward to about 2 feet.


Looks like it’s 13-13-13 for both this time of year.

I did read something else from LSU ag that recommended ammonium sulfate. And it said to fertilize late winter/early spring. I’ll have to see if I can find it and compare it to the above info.

ETA: Found it. Blackberry Growing Guide

quote:

In late winter and again after harvest, apply nitrogen in the form of ammonium sulfate (21-0-0) at 0.75 pounds per 10-foot row (8 ounces per plant) or use 33-0-0 at one-third of a pound per 10-foot row (1.6 oz. per plant). Apply fertilizer in 12- to 18-inch circles around the shrubs’ drip line (area where the edge of the foliage lines up with the soil) or apply parallel to the row 12 to 18 inches from the center.

If a soil test is not available, fertilize newly planted blackberries with one-half pound of 8-8-8 fertilizer per 10-feet of row or 2.5 tablespoons of 8-8-8 per plant. For the second and subsequent years, follow recommendations from a soil test.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

I'm putting 4 citrus trees in the ground this weekend. 2 Owaris, 1 Brown select, and 1 Meyer lemon that I've had in a pot for the last 3 years that has done absolutely nothing.


I had mine in 30 gallon grow bags for 2 years and they also did nothing. I put them in the ground late last summer. I’m hoping they start to make some progress this year.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27676 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I have reminders set up on my phone throughout the year to remind me when to fertilize certain things. Today I got one for citrus trees and blackberries. So if you haven't yet, now is a good time to do so.

For citrus trees LSU AgCenter recommends 13-13-13. For blackberries, ammonium sulfate.


What about fig trees?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:20 pm to
I don’t have fig trees. But it looks like now is a good time for those as well.

LINK

quote:

A general fertilizer recommendation is 1 pound of 8-8- 8 per year of age of the tree up to 10 years old. This maximum of 10 pounds should be continued for trees 10 or more years old. Apply fertilizer in late winter or early spring. A good indication of the need for fertilizer is the amount of shoot growth obtained. A satisfactory amount of shoot growth is 1 to 1 1/2 feet per year. One common cause of fruit not maturing on fig trees is overfertilization using nitrogen fertilizer. Four to 6 inches of mulch and regular watering will often produce adequate growth of trees without sacrificing yield and quality. Do not fertilize trees in late summer, since succulent growth is more susceptible to cold injury. Vigorous late-season growth is not desirable.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

should be made just before bud swell in the spring on established berry plantings.


A little late for that. I've got some fully open blooms on mine.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15326 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:12 am to
Same here. I don’t see any new canes coming up yet. But some new leaf buds are starting to swell. The blueberries are also starting to break dormancy. Lots of leaf buds. I guess I’ll have to hit them with some fertilizer soon also.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
14516 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:18 am to
Called the place I got the mushroom compost from last year. For 5 CYs delivered, its $45/CY and a $150 delivery fee. Total comes out to $431. Ouch. Might be using the 10 CY of topsoil delivery we bought at a charity auction instead.

I need to make at least 2 more rows since I didn't plan correctly and need a row for potatoes soon and this year's new experiment: cut flowers.
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