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2023 Spring Garden Thread
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:31 am
Welcome to the 2023 Spring Garden Thread.
Here are some useful resource links:
Gardening info/learning:
Home Gardening Certificate Course
LSU AgCenter Main Page
LSU AgCenter Vegetable Planting Guide
Davesgarden.com
Seedsavers Exchange learning page
Epic gardening raised bed plans
• The LSU AgCenter website and planting guide will have almost all the information you need for growing just about anything in Louisiana.
• Davesgarden.com is really useful for their watchdog section which gathers ratings on different seed companies and nurseries.
• The Seedsavers learning page is a very easy to use website that is great for beginners.
Seed/plant websites:
Harris Seeds
Park Seed
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (rareseeds.com)
Reimer seeds
Gurney’s
Migardener.com
Most of these are very reputable sites for ordering seeds. Reimer is the only one I’ve ever had problems with. They’ve sent me mislabeled/wrong product. I’ve also had some seeds with 0% germination. However, they have an extremely large selection, so they may be worth the gamble for some harder to find varieties. I’ve also ordered seeds from various sellers on amazon with no problems.
Here are some useful links to learn about different products for disease and pests:
Organic disease and pest management:
Neem Oil
Liquid Copper
Pyrethrin
Spinosad
Bacillus Thuringiensis
Hydrogen Peroxide / Hydrogen Peroxide mixing chart for garden use
Non-organic disease and pest management:
Fungicides:
Daconil
Mancozeb
Insecticides:
Bonide Eight (permethrin)
Sevin dust
Liquid Sevin (Zeta-Cypermethrin)
If there are any other products or links that you'd recommend, please let me know and I'll add them.
Average first and last frost date lookup
Farmers Almanac first and last frost date.
Here are some useful resource links:
Gardening info/learning:
Home Gardening Certificate Course
LSU AgCenter Main Page
LSU AgCenter Vegetable Planting Guide
Davesgarden.com
Seedsavers Exchange learning page
Epic gardening raised bed plans
• The LSU AgCenter website and planting guide will have almost all the information you need for growing just about anything in Louisiana.
• Davesgarden.com is really useful for their watchdog section which gathers ratings on different seed companies and nurseries.
• The Seedsavers learning page is a very easy to use website that is great for beginners.
Seed/plant websites:
Harris Seeds
Park Seed
Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (rareseeds.com)
Reimer seeds
Gurney’s
Migardener.com
Most of these are very reputable sites for ordering seeds. Reimer is the only one I’ve ever had problems with. They’ve sent me mislabeled/wrong product. I’ve also had some seeds with 0% germination. However, they have an extremely large selection, so they may be worth the gamble for some harder to find varieties. I’ve also ordered seeds from various sellers on amazon with no problems.
Here are some useful links to learn about different products for disease and pests:
Organic disease and pest management:
Neem Oil
Liquid Copper
Pyrethrin
Spinosad
Bacillus Thuringiensis
Hydrogen Peroxide / Hydrogen Peroxide mixing chart for garden use
Non-organic disease and pest management:
Fungicides:
Daconil
Mancozeb
Insecticides:
Bonide Eight (permethrin)
Sevin dust
Liquid Sevin (Zeta-Cypermethrin)
If there are any other products or links that you'd recommend, please let me know and I'll add them.
Average first and last frost date lookup
Farmers Almanac first and last frost date.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:32 am to PillageUrVillage
I’m gonna start my pepper seeds today. Gonna give them a head start since they take longer, and I’ll start the tomatoes in a couple of weeks.
Had a little project over the weekend. We have a new cat in the house and we also have a robot vacuum. So I needed to put something together to protect the seedlings from both. I used some spray adhesive and attached some reflective sheeting to project boards that I bought at Walmart. Not only will it protect my seedlings, but it should reflect light back to the plants. It didn’t come out perfect, but it should work well enough.
ETA: Got my garden plan together for the spring. Gonna be trying a few different things this year that I don’t ordinarily grow.
Had a little project over the weekend. We have a new cat in the house and we also have a robot vacuum. So I needed to put something together to protect the seedlings from both. I used some spray adhesive and attached some reflective sheeting to project boards that I bought at Walmart. Not only will it protect my seedlings, but it should reflect light back to the plants. It didn’t come out perfect, but it should work well enough.
ETA: Got my garden plan together for the spring. Gonna be trying a few different things this year that I don’t ordinarily grow.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:23 am to PillageUrVillage
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:06 am to PillageUrVillage
My early order from Baker Seeds in December.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:50 am to Mr Sausage
That’s quite the spread with some interesting looking tomatoes. Especially Phil’s One. Can’t wait to see some of those!
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:13 pm to PillageUrVillage
My wife and kids love tomatoes. I don’t eat any of them unless in salsa or spaghetti sauce.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:13 pm to Mr Sausage
Had a lot of cross-pollination with 3 tomatoes in the plots in the fall...Will be making sure everything is very separated. Since the top hats only max out at 12" high, I will probably try and do a separate vertical garden and just have the Principe cherry's climb the trellis. Will do one plot with Korean Greens and Ping Tung eggplant and then a plot of black beauty eggplants and thai's.
Not pictured are my dragon tongue green beans. Those things were so good I'll probably be doing several small containers around the yard of those.
Will start planting seeds today hopefully.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:08 pm to MadtownTiger
Got all the seeds in and the grow light came in today. Going to build a frame tonight.
I may be pushing it on spacing here, but I don’t have a ton of room. My beds aren’t built yet though, so I can adjust if needed.
First time doing this so any advice is welcomed!
I may be pushing it on spacing here, but I don’t have a ton of room. My beds aren’t built yet though, so I can adjust if needed.
First time doing this so any advice is welcomed!
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:29 pm to meeple
The sunflower you have meeple, is crazy.
I grew them on my farm this past year but the all died from the drought. Will plant them again this year but that has me curious.
I’m planting for dove, fyi.
I grew them on my farm this past year but the all died from the drought. Will plant them again this year but that has me curious.
I’m planting for dove, fyi.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:45 pm to meeple
Yeah the more space you can give them the better. Especially for the squashes. They can get a little size to them.
I’m interested to see how the butternut works out on a trellis. I imagine you’ll have to support the fruit?
I’m interested to see how the butternut works out on a trellis. I imagine you’ll have to support the fruit?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:04 pm to PillageUrVillage
quote:
I’m interested to see how the butternut works out on a trellis. I imagine you’ll have to support the fruit?
Not sure, a bridge I’ll cross I suppose. Some videos on YT have them growing up on trellises (trellii?) and seem to indicate the plants support them, although the trellis should be stout.
Butternut squash on a trellis
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:35 pm to meeple
quote:
I imagine you’ll have to support the fruit?
I've never grown butternut squash on a trellis.
However, I've grown them numerous times on the ground; and the vines have always (with minimal care by me) produced a very large harvest without failure.
By the way, I've never had any problems with squash borers or found any need to use insecticides growing them.
I really doubt you'll have any problem growing them on a trellis, as long as the trellis is sufficiently sturdy to support the weight of the vines and squashes as you've indicated. These squashes have an extremely strong stem that isn't easily broken. As long as the vines hold firmly to a trellis with the numerus tendrils the vines usually make, I think you will succeed very well growing them on a trellis.
The only suggestion I have is I think you'll likely need to periodically add some fertilizer several times to adequately feed the vines and squashes. If the vines were grown on the ground, I think they would likely not require quite as much and as frequent applications of fertilizer, because on the ground they would send down additional roots along the length of the vines that would help feed the vines and squashes.
All the Best to you growing them on a trellis!
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:15 pm to PillageUrVillage
This year should be interesting for me. Moved to Idaho, so I've gone from hot and humid 7b to a much cooler and drier 6b. Just hoping we find a house by around March so I can get seeds started. Last frost day here is usually the first or second week in May, so muuuuuuch different growing style and dates here.
Will be nice to be able to actually grow currants, gooseberries, apples, etc.
Will be nice to be able to actually grow currants, gooseberries, apples, etc.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:48 am to meeple
Zucchini plants get about 3-4 feet wide with big shading leaves. Keep that in mind!
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:04 am to TheBoo
You can grow them in cages, which helps with their displacement.
I just ordered seeds. Late, but whatever. I still haven't figured out where I'm going to put my garden. We've got deer so I really need to plan around them. I may just grow some peppers and tomatoes in pots this spring and check out the sun profile for the fall.
I just ordered seeds. Late, but whatever. I still haven't figured out where I'm going to put my garden. We've got deer so I really need to plan around them. I may just grow some peppers and tomatoes in pots this spring and check out the sun profile for the fall.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 9:58 am to PillageUrVillage
I've had my spring plot planned a week after fall stuff was planted 
Will be getting seeds after we get back in town. We're looking at a sizeable expansion from last year.
Will be getting seeds after we get back in town. We're looking at a sizeable expansion from last year.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:08 am to bluemoons
quote:
You can grow them in cages, which helps with their displacement.
Interesting… I’m going to look into this, as well as revise my plan to allow for some more room for them to spread out.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:04 pm to PillageUrVillage
Pillage, I continue to envy your space
This is the plan for this year. Trying some Midnight Snack and Two Tasty cherry tomatoes. We shall see how they do. Also thinking hard about making these two long beds instead of 4 separate beds.
Midnight Snack:
Two Tasty:
This is the plan for this year. Trying some Midnight Snack and Two Tasty cherry tomatoes. We shall see how they do. Also thinking hard about making these two long beds instead of 4 separate beds.
Midnight Snack:
Two Tasty:
Posted on 1/3/23 at 4:00 pm to TheBoo
I've grown the midnight snack several years. Super plentiful fruits and very tasty. My wife's favorite cherry variety.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:31 pm to PillageUrVillage
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2023 Spring Garden Thread
I won’t start seeds until Feb so I’ll be taking notes till then
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