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re: 2022 Fall Garden Thread
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:09 am to PillageUrVillage
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:09 am to PillageUrVillage
Just finished pulling all my tomatoes and cutting my snap beans down to grade. Going to hit those rows with roundup. Mockingbird was perched on top of my wobble head owl when I walked back there this morning. Bastard
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Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:20 am to Capt ST
so what guides / videos / books (if any) do you folks use to plan out your companion plants and overall layout for the garden?
I'm trying to figure out how to organize the 5 raised beds I'm setting up this year, and wondering what most folks do. Do y'all combine plants that like to be next to each other (like peppers and tomatoes) and then add various pollinator attracting stuff to the outsides or do whole beds with one type of plant or ?
Same question for the various alliums, is it better to do a big bed full of onions, garlic, shallots or mix those in with other crops.
I'm trying to figure out how to organize the 5 raised beds I'm setting up this year, and wondering what most folks do. Do y'all combine plants that like to be next to each other (like peppers and tomatoes) and then add various pollinator attracting stuff to the outsides or do whole beds with one type of plant or ?
Same question for the various alliums, is it better to do a big bed full of onions, garlic, shallots or mix those in with other crops.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:01 am to PillageUrVillage
I grow all of my squash /zucchini in bay bales. Haven’t had a borer since
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:01 am to nopants
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so what guides / videos / books (if any) do you folks use to plan out your companion plants and overall layout for the garden?
Pretty much just use the LSU Ag planting guide to help with layout and crop rotation. I don't do a whole lot of companion planting per se. I do plant sunflowers nearby in the spring as a trap crop to attract sucking insects like leaf hoppers and stink bugs to them instead of everything else in my garden. It seems to help. Plus the added benefit of attracting pollinators. I have this website bookmarked and it seems to be a pretty decent outline for companion planting. Companion Planting for Raised Garden Beds
I'm sure there are more in-depth resources out there.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 10:18 am to PillageUrVillage
Thanks Pillage, was hoping you'd be the one to reply since you seem to be the resident expert on this stuff 
Do you think the square foot gardening stuff is worthwhile to look into? I'm still very much new to any type of serious gardening and it can be hard to tell what the "real deal" is with people who know what they are doing vs rando youtube people who may just be trying to shill products.
Do you think the square foot gardening stuff is worthwhile to look into? I'm still very much new to any type of serious gardening and it can be hard to tell what the "real deal" is with people who know what they are doing vs rando youtube people who may just be trying to shill products.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 1:28 pm to michael corleone
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I grow all of my squash /zucchini in bay bales. Haven’t had a borer since
would you mind explaining this a bit? I've almost given up on squash bc of them. you cover the stems with the straw or does it deter the moth? Thanks
Posted on 7/1/22 at 3:19 pm to nopants
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I grow all of my squash /zucchini in bay bales. Haven’t had a borer since
would you mind explaining this a bit?
I’d like to hear more about this as well.
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Thanks Pillage, was hoping you'd be the one to reply since you seem to be the resident expert on this stuff
You’re welcome. But please, I am definitely no expert. Im sure there are quite a few posters here that are much more seasoned in the garden than I am. I just try to follow the manual (pretty much whatever the LSU AgCenter says to do).
A few days ago we harvested our first crimson sweet watermelon. I was sure it was ready. It had turned dull, the underside was a creamy color, it had that nice hollow thud sound, the leaf right above was dead and the tendril was drying up and dying. Maybe I’ll wait till the tendril fully dies next time. It was still pretty good, but it didn’t seem to be as red and sweet as it should have been. I’ll wait a little longer for the others.
And yesterday I pulled one of the honey supers off of my beehive to harvest. Gonna jar that stuff up this weekend!
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:04 am to PillageUrVillage
I’ve been watching watermelon growers on youtube to get an idea of when to pick. That tendril & the days to maturity (when the plant is put in ground) seem to be what most go by. They are fun to watch grow. My Moon & Stars has almost doubled in size in only 5 days. I think it still has at least 2 more weeks to get to 85 days since I transplanted it.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 8:28 am to DarthTiger
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That tendril & the days to maturity (when the plant is put in ground) seem to be what most go by.
Yeah we must be watching some of the same youtube videos.
I've noticed that seems to be the biggest indicator for most of them. quote:
My Moon & Stars has almost doubled in size in only 5 days
Nice!
I want to say I grew that variety a long time ago. It was either that or something else very similar looking. I only got one melon off of it. But it was delicious. Anyway, that was years ago and space limitations and limited success is why I haven't tried to grow them in so long. Luckily I shouldn't have that problem anymore since I built the big raised beds. I have some re-learning to do.Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:06 pm to PillageUrVillage
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watching some of the same youtube videos
Probably.
The lady that spends 8 minutes explaining when to pick and then proceeds to cut open an overripe one. I’d love to look into diff varieties and see which ones produce the best. I’ve got 2 more baby M&S on this plant. I’m guessing that’s probably average for most varieties.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:39 pm to DarthTiger
Our watermelons are putting a second round of melons on right now. We struggle on figuring out when to pick also. My grandparents said to wait til the stem dries. I’ll have to watch some of these fancy YouTube videos.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 4:05 pm to Mr Sausage
is this week too early to start off tomato seeds for the fall?
I was planning on 6-8 weeks indoors under the grow light before transplanting into raised beds, which would put it somewhere mid-late august.
that sound about right to you folks, or do you y'all wait a bit longer and shoot for early September to put them out?
With our heat, it seems like they should be fine growing into November / early December.
I was planning on 6-8 weeks indoors under the grow light before transplanting into raised beds, which would put it somewhere mid-late august.
that sound about right to you folks, or do you y'all wait a bit longer and shoot for early September to put them out?
With our heat, it seems like they should be fine growing into November / early December.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:13 am to nopants
Trying to my hand at gardening for what is basically the first time. 2 weeks ago I took. A sod cutter and cut an area 15’x25’ (sod cutter got a little loose so it’s actually 17ishx25). Learned a lesson cutting sod. Unless you got a tractor or a couple of 16 year old defensive lineman don’t make the rolls 25’ long.
One week ago I borrowed my buddies rear tine tiller and bought about 90cu ft of top soil, compost and potting material and tilled it all up. Made 6 rows.
Around mid June I started pumpkins and bell peppers in peat Potts. Today I planted the pumpkins (3 on the last row and 1 at the end of my okra row) and direct sowed a row of Okra. Bell peppers are still in peat pots getting bigger.
My mounds are way too thin. I know that. Going to work on that this week coming before anymore planting. I’ve had some grass growing in the lanes below the mounds. Digging out and spot applying glyphosate. I’m following the LSU ag centers planting calendar. In august I plan on starting carrots, broccoli and carrots. Any suggestions, criticisms so far? Taking all comments. Fire away.
One week ago I borrowed my buddies rear tine tiller and bought about 90cu ft of top soil, compost and potting material and tilled it all up. Made 6 rows.
Around mid June I started pumpkins and bell peppers in peat Potts. Today I planted the pumpkins (3 on the last row and 1 at the end of my okra row) and direct sowed a row of Okra. Bell peppers are still in peat pots getting bigger.
My mounds are way too thin. I know that. Going to work on that this week coming before anymore planting. I’ve had some grass growing in the lanes below the mounds. Digging out and spot applying glyphosate. I’m following the LSU ag centers planting calendar. In august I plan on starting carrots, broccoli and carrots. Any suggestions, criticisms so far? Taking all comments. Fire away.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 8:17 am
Posted on 7/3/22 at 9:38 am to rmc
My experience last year brings a couple of things to mind: 1. Get some mulch, fabric, cardboard. Something to cover that bare ground you aren’t directing planting in. Otherwise you are going to be fighting weeds like crazy.
2. Start thinking about how you are going to water.
3. Have a good time and enjoy it!
2. Start thinking about how you are going to water.
3. Have a good time and enjoy it!
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:08 am to rmc
That looks great! And I agree with sausage on mulching and irrigation. It wouldn’t be too difficult to put some drip line down on those rows.
Boy I wish I knew these existed when I started my garden. 
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sod cutter
Boy I wish I knew these existed when I started my garden.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:13 am to PillageUrVillage
I asked my buddy who I borrowed the tiller from about sod cutting. He basically blew it off and told me just spray it all and then till. In hindsight I think I went the correct route. I’ll be saving cardboard and putting in the lanes. Thanks for the tip from both of you.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:15 am to nopants
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is this week too early to start off tomato seeds for the fall?
If you’re doing heat tolerant varieties, go ahead. If not I’d maybe wait a couple weeks before starting them.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:34 pm to Celtic Tiger
Recipe for a single rectangle hay bale
Day 1—5. Sprinkle a cup of high nitrogen fertilizer of the top of the bale. Soak the bale with water. Do this everyday for 5 days. Days 6 & 7, do the same but use a 13-13-13 fertilizer. Days 8-12 soak the bale , but don’t add fertilizer. Use a meat thermometer and take internal temps everyday starting around day 8 or 9. The bale should peak at 115-125 in temp. It’s should start to drop around day 14. Once the temp drops to 95-90 you can plant. I put two plants per bale. Use your hand and make a hole. Put your transplant in the hole and use potting soil to fill any gaps. I water it well the first 7 days post transplant. I fertilize twice with 13-13-13. At day 15 post transplant and again around day 30. I started adding calcium nitrate bc of some blossom end , but I think it may have been more of a water issue. In any event, add a little calcium nitrate around day 21 and 35. A
The fly lays eggs on the stem/leaves. When they hatch, the borer crawls down into the soil. It can’t/won’t crawl through the hay. It irritates it or punctures it. It can’t survive in the hay like it can in the soil.
Day 1—5. Sprinkle a cup of high nitrogen fertilizer of the top of the bale. Soak the bale with water. Do this everyday for 5 days. Days 6 & 7, do the same but use a 13-13-13 fertilizer. Days 8-12 soak the bale , but don’t add fertilizer. Use a meat thermometer and take internal temps everyday starting around day 8 or 9. The bale should peak at 115-125 in temp. It’s should start to drop around day 14. Once the temp drops to 95-90 you can plant. I put two plants per bale. Use your hand and make a hole. Put your transplant in the hole and use potting soil to fill any gaps. I water it well the first 7 days post transplant. I fertilize twice with 13-13-13. At day 15 post transplant and again around day 30. I started adding calcium nitrate bc of some blossom end , but I think it may have been more of a water issue. In any event, add a little calcium nitrate around day 21 and 35. A
The fly lays eggs on the stem/leaves. When they hatch, the borer crawls down into the soil. It can’t/won’t crawl through the hay. It irritates it or punctures it. It can’t survive in the hay like it can in the soil.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:39 am to michael corleone
Anybody have experience growing tomatillos? I have a few plants they are doing great just not producing fruit. Lots of flowers but they just won't turn into anything. All of my peppers are doing great just not the tomatillo's
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:36 am to WigSplitta22
I grew a couple last year. First time growing them though. If I remember correctly, it did seem to take awhile for them to produce the husks, then another long wait for them to grow big enough to harvest.
I’ve read some people will shake the plant to help with pollination but I don’t think I did that last year. I had a pretty good harvest, but I also had many just drop off the plant before ripening.
I’ve read some people will shake the plant to help with pollination but I don’t think I did that last year. I had a pretty good harvest, but I also had many just drop off the plant before ripening.
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