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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:17 am to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:17 am to
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What about onions from seed?


From the Allium Crops link posted above:

quote:

Onions may be grown for either bulbs or green tops
(scallions). Planting from seed can start in late September
in north Louisiana and extends through mid-October
in south Louisiana. Plant onion sets or transplants midDecember through late-January.


I've done them from seed before and started them in October. Although I can't say I've had the best luck. I've gotten some decent sized bulbs, but also a lot of small ones. I'm going to keep trying until I figure it out.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5289 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:14 am to
I have what I believe is quackgrass in my garden. The root system is incredibly obnoxious. Grows like a spiderweb. Everything I have read says there is no easy way to get rid of it. The only thing I've seen recommended is tilling when it shoots up a few sprouts and get the root system at a nutrient deficit. I've been burning my garden 3 times a week because it shoots up so many sprouts. I couldn't even plant this spring because of it. It robs the nutrients out of the soil and you can't even get a shovel in the ground because the roots are so dense. Guess I'll just stay the course and hope to win with perseverance.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
11531 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:06 pm to
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f you want to grow pumpkins to have for Halloween, Get the seeds in the ground now.


I plan to do that this week. I'm pulling what remains of a squash that fell victim to a vine borer. We'll see if my kid has pumpkins for Halloween.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2743 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 5:13 pm to
For those of you that have planted Purple Hull Pinkeye peas, are these bush/semi-vining? There’s a ‘bvr’ variety that is semi-vining but I don’t see a description for regular PH’s.
Posted by labguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2020
245 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 5:50 pm to
Is it possible to successfully grow a fall garden of bush beans in BR? I have never grown them before. LSU Agcenter says plant 9/1 to 10/1. Any favorite varieties I should try? Thanks.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14724 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 5:59 pm to
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For those of you that have planted Purple Hull Pinkeye peas, are these bush/semi-vining? There’s a ‘bvr’ variety that is semi-vining but I don’t see a description for regular PH’s.


I planted some called “Top Pick” purple hulls. They’re a bush variety.

The BVR stands for black eye cowpea mosaic virus resistant.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15001 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:05 pm to
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LSU Agcenter says plant 9/1 to 10/1. Any favorite varieties I should try? Thanks.



I'd direct sow them on 9/1 since it will take several days for them to emerge and it will be vital to keep the ground moist so they sprout and afterwards since the roots are close to the top of the soil. It is still damn hot that time of year and the heat can easily take them out.

Just about any bush bean will work fine but know they will put out many beans in a fairly short time and then peter out, unlike pole beans that seem to go on longer, but generally less productivity at any one time.

I have grown bush beans but it gets tiring bending over picking all those beans if you have a long row. If you make your row about 24 inches across and flatten the top a bit, you can plant a double row of beans in it by planting seeds about 6 inches off the sides of it and leaving a foot or so between each row of planted seeds.

I do this when I plant soybeans for Edamame and it works out fine with a great harvest. I'll usually get a 5 gallon bucket of soybeans off a 40 ft. long, double planted row.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:15 pm to
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I'm pulling what remains of a squash that fell victim to a vine borer.


I’ve never grown squash, zucchini, or pumpkins, so I’ve never really had to deal with vine borers. I’ve read that they also sometimes attack cucumbers and melons. But I’ve never had that happen. I hope they don’t come after my pumpkins. But I’ll try to be as proactive as possible and spray Bt often and visually inspecting the vines as good as I can.

One thing I was thinking about doing is getting a trap. I don’t know if anyone has ever tried one of these, but they come with a pheromone lure and apparently help a lot based on testimonials.
Vine borer trap - eBay

Then there’s this one on Amazon that looks the same but it’s all green to supposedly not attract bumble bees.
Squash Pumpkin Vine Borer Trap

I worry the pheromone lure would actually attract more vine borers though.

I also saw one video where this woman wrapped the base of her squash plants with athletic tape and swore by it. I’ll see if I can find the video.

ETA: Found it. YouTube

I don’t know if that would be practical for pumpkin vines.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12735 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:24 pm to
We were pretty successful with mulching the squash vine at the base. They eventually got it but bored into the vine 4ft from the original base. I call that a success.
Posted by nopants
Luling, La
Member since Aug 2006
886 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:27 am to
Has anyone grown these varieties down here (Louisiana) and had success?

Black Cherry Tomato




Atomic grape tomato



It is my first time growing tomatoes, I'm sure I should probably just get common generic ones but I thought these looked interesting.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 8:28 am
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5498 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:00 am to
I've got an atomic grape plant producing right now. I've tried to grow them for the past 3 seasons but this is the first that I've been successful in getting one to produce. It's been weird because I don't have that problem with any other tomato seed starts. I've been thinking that I may have a bad batch of seeds. The starts get to be about 7" tall and then start struggling really badly.

Anyway, I finally got one in the garden outside this year. It has made a lot of tomatoes and they're cool to look at. The skin is really thick and they crack pretty badly. They are also kind of an odd size - too big to be a cherry, but too small to really use on sandwiches or slice. Pretty much a salad tomato. The flavor also isn't that great.

That all sounds pretty negative, but they're really pretty and I'd say they're worth growing if you want a cool looking tomato for salads, capreses, etc. The plant that I have is also super prolific. I will have picked well over 100 tomatoes from it by the time it quits. I prefer other varieties for eating plain though. I consider myself halfway decent at growing tomatoes from seed and the atomic grapes are the only ones that have really given me trouble, so just food for thought. It's especially weird for a smaller variety. I normally find those to grow like weeds.

I have grown black cherries twice and they're great. I normally grow sweet millions and sungolds for cherries, and the black cherries added a nice color mixup to those. They also taste great.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 9:02 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4481 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:32 am to
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I have what I believe is quackgrass in my garden.

Same here. Crazy how dense the root systems are. One of my tasks this weekend is to pull what's there and get fall garden ready.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5804 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:11 pm to
I grow contenders every Fall. I plant them between 7/15–8/1.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14724 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 8:14 pm to
Finally got around to doing a little work on my newest addition. Eventually I'm going to transplant the blackberries into the open box (which is 3’ x 12’). Then I’ll build another 3’ x 12’ box in line with it for blueberries.


Cut open our first cantaloupe. It was good. Tasted like cantaloupe.



First pumpkin seed has sprouted!


And I did leave 1 sunflower in the box since it was all the way at the end. When I pulled all of the others to sow the pumpkin seeds I couldn’t bring myself to pull this one since it was about 10 or 11 feet tall and hadn’t opened yet. Well it’s been putting on a show for the past couple of days.

Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:18 am to
I cleaned the beds up a bit yesterday and my cucumbers have decided that they'll climb the sunflowers, too.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2743 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:59 pm to
Spring tomatoes are finally coming in. Black Krim left, Carbon on the right. I’m definitely doing cuttings for fall tomatoes. The plants I used the bone meal on look the best so I’ll be adding that in for all my tomatoes.

Moon & Stars watermelon coming along.

Have 3 Hale’s best cantaloupe so far.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38620 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:07 pm to
finally some rain here
this hot/humid air and no rain has sucked all the energy out of me
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12735 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:12 pm to
Been gone for four days. Sweet corn is still hanging on, tomatoes are still producing. Have 4-5 watermelons still going on the vine. Black eyed peas, crowder peas, okra, 2nd round of green beans, 2nd round of zucchini, and pumpkins coming up. This watering system is worth its weight in gold. We still have tomatoes out our ears.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:39 pm to
Do you actually pull the sunflowers up? I just cut them at grade and leave the roots to rot.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14724 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:46 am to
Since I was immediately replanting I pulled them up. That last one I’ll probably cut at the base and leave it since it’s off to the side.

So far 4 of my pumpkin seeds have sprouted. Harvested a bunch of purple hulls. Plucked another cantaloupe and the first watermelon this weekend. Pulled the rest of the Roma tomatoes, and also the cucumbers and pole beans. It looks like we’ll get some much needed rain this week!
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