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re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by BallsEleven on 10/29/20 at 2:42 pm to PillageUrVillage
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In the middle section I will have a honey beehive in the spring.
You son of a bitch...
I've been itching to get a hive or 2 for a while now. My wife has let me have fun with getting chickens and ducks (ducks ended up being way too messy until we have more land with a proper pond, they are currently waiting the first gumbo of the fall). She is pretty dead set against the hives though.
My biggest issue has been how to elevate their flight path and also keep grass away so that I don't stir them up too much mowing and weed eating. Surrounding it like that on 3 sides would solve both of those problems.
Originally I was going to put them in a corner of our fence and surround on the other 2 sides with bushes but this looks much "prettier" for the wife and instant coverage. You could do some honeysuckle to grow up the lattice. As far as bushes I was just going to go with azaleas but you could also do something like blackberry bushes for the nectar. I know I have seen bees all over lantana as well.
I'm not sure of your plan but I would point them towards your middle wall to elevate their flight path and so you can always approach them from the back.
I was going to say you should make sure to give them a water source but looks like you have a pond in the back.
Bee Source is a great forum to ask questions about bees. A lot of knowledgeable people on that site.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 10/29/20 at 2:55 pm to BallsEleven
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I’m not sure of your plan but I would point them towards your middle wall to elevate their flight path and so you can always approach them from the back.
That’s exactly what my plan was. And yes, there is a pond behind my house. They won’t be far away from water. I do plan on giving them plenty of food until they get off the ground, also. Been doing a lot of reading up on the subject, plus I know a couple of people that keep bees that have offered their help.
Thanks for the suggestions on plants. I’ll look into them and see what my wife likes best. In the spring, the box that currently has carrots will be getting mammoth sunflowers. That should help elevate their flight path as well. And I’ll probably place a couple of potted plants on the backside (my entrance) as well.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by Milescb28 on 10/30/20 at 1:44 pm to PillageUrVillage
If you are making the hive yourself consider a horizontal hive. Those vertical ones get heavy when filled with honey and sometimes require 2 people to lift. My dad has 5 hives and switched to horizontal for his newest because of this. I don't know the pros and cons of each type. Just an idea. Looks awesome so far and I always enjoy the pictures.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 10/30/20 at 2:23 pm to Milescb28
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horizontal hive.
I believe they’re called top bar hives. I am going with a Langstroth hive (that’s the “vertical” one), but I’m going with an 8 frame instead of 10 for the very reason you mentioned. Weight. It’s my first one, so we’ll see how it works out.
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Looks awesome so far and I always enjoy the pictures.
Thank you! I will have more pictures in a little bit. I added another small box to the front and planted some blackberries. I’m in the middle of running irrigation to it.
ETA:
I think I’m done for now.
This post was edited on 10/30 at 3:21 pm
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by FowlGuy on 10/30/20 at 3:59 pm to PillageUrVillage
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baby bok choy I should probably try growing these next year. I've had them in a few Asian dishes and definitely like them.
Planted some this year love them, goes great with fish especially deep sea like grouper/snapper. Ignore the weeds I’ve been busy.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by gumbo2176 on 10/31/20 at 6:54 pm to PillageUrVillage
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Filled in the second box this morning and planted some bare root strawberries.
May have to do some sort of cover for the strawberries. I lost so many to birds picking at them in the mornings that I just gave up growing them.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by DarthTiger on 10/31/20 at 11:02 pm to PillageUrVillage
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re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/1/20 at 6:32 am to DarthTiger
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Do you thin your carrots out?
Yes. It’s recommended to thin them twice. I usually do the first thinning when the green tops get about an inch or two high after sprouting. For the first one I try to just get rid of the ones that are clumped together really close, leaving the rest less than a half inch apart. Once the green tops double in size I do a second one thinning them to at least an inch apart. It’s very tedious, and you need to be careful when pulling them so as not to disturb the nearby plants too much.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/1/20 at 6:35 am to gumbo2176
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May have to do some sort of cover for the strawberries. I lost so many to birds picking at them in the mornings that I just gave up growing them.
Good to know. One positive about the lattice on side of the box is that it should make it easier to put netting over it. I’ll keep an eye out, and get some netting if needed.
ETA: I should maybe get some regardless. Might help keep the squirrels out, too. Those little bastards are still a problem.
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re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by gumbo2176 on 11/1/20 at 10:49 am to PillageUrVillage
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Might help keep the squirrels out, too
Not going to happen if the squirrels develop a taste for strawberries. They'll get under, around or through that netting like it wasn't there.
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re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/1/20 at 11:34 am to gumbo2176
I guess I’ll just continue chooting them.
My sprinkler still does a great job at deterring them. I’ve thinned the population some. I may get a trap also. I know I’ll never completely stop them, but if I can slow them down enough I’ll be content.
My sprinkler still does a great job at deterring them. I’ve thinned the population some. I may get a trap also. I know I’ll never completely stop them, but if I can slow them down enough I’ll be content.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by Martini on 11/2/20 at 9:28 pm to PillageUrVillage
You will love the PrimeArk blackberry. I have 25 of them and 25 Caddo and they put out some good berries. Brambles take a commitment and a bit of work but the payoff is huge. YouTube University of Arkansas blackberries and go to school. Professor John Clark developed the PrimeArk and does some great work. Plenty of video tutorials.
I would consider the bees being back by your trailer in lieu of directly next to your plants. When you need to be working on your garden during the spring the honey flow will be starting and unless you want to garden in a bee suit you will be in a war with them. My wife has about a half dozen hives and they are 50 yards away from one of my gardens and it works well. You can coexist at that distance.
I can run my Zero turn pretty close normally to cut but from time to time they chase me off. But to get close around them my wife has to weedeat in her bee suit.
And bees travel about a mile radius from the hives so they will find plenty of food sources and mostly in the south they use of all things Chinese Tallow trees for a food source.
Nourse Farms out of Massachusetts is a great source for blackberry, raspberry and strawberry plants. Very helpful and healthy plants plus cost about the same as anywhere.
Nail a couple of canned ham cans onto the tree and fill with pecans or corn to train the squirrels to move there for a food source. I don’t know if that will work or not but that’s what my Country grandparents did and swore by it. I don’t even know if you can find those hams in a can anymore anyway.
Good luck. Looks good.
I would consider the bees being back by your trailer in lieu of directly next to your plants. When you need to be working on your garden during the spring the honey flow will be starting and unless you want to garden in a bee suit you will be in a war with them. My wife has about a half dozen hives and they are 50 yards away from one of my gardens and it works well. You can coexist at that distance.
I can run my Zero turn pretty close normally to cut but from time to time they chase me off. But to get close around them my wife has to weedeat in her bee suit.
And bees travel about a mile radius from the hives so they will find plenty of food sources and mostly in the south they use of all things Chinese Tallow trees for a food source.
Nourse Farms out of Massachusetts is a great source for blackberry, raspberry and strawberry plants. Very helpful and healthy plants plus cost about the same as anywhere.
Nail a couple of canned ham cans onto the tree and fill with pecans or corn to train the squirrels to move there for a food source. I don’t know if that will work or not but that’s what my Country grandparents did and swore by it. I don’t even know if you can find those hams in a can anymore anyway.
Good luck. Looks good.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/3/20 at 7:29 am to Martini
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Professor John Clark developed the PrimeArk and does some great work. Plenty of video tutorials.
Yes, I've been watching some of his videos. Good stuff!
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I would consider the bees being back by your trailer in lieu of directly next to your plants.
If that were my property, I would absolutely have them back there closer to the pond.
I'm cool with the guy who owns the property, he lets me fish his pond, but he doesn't want a beehive on it. I guess I don't blame him. He doesn't want to deal with them when he has to tend to his property.
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Nail a couple of canned ham cans onto the tree and fill with pecans or corn to train the squirrels to move there for a food source. I don’t know if that will work or not but that’s what my Country grandparents did and swore by it.
Man, I've tried feeding them to keep them out of my garden and all that did was draw more squirrels to the area. Not to mention that they would go through the food so fast that it would've gotten entirely too expensive to be worth continuing.
Your blackberry rows look great and I'm jealous of your property! I told my wife that if we ever move again I am not compromising next time. I want more land, and way out in the country with as few neighbors as possible. She's starting to agree. Our neighborhood has large lots and is pretty rural. But even she is getting tired of dealing with even just a few neighbors.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by Capt ST on 11/3/20 at 9:41 am to PillageUrVillage
Only thing I've found somewhat effective on the squirrels is a pellet gun. They have plenty of nuts to feed on currently so they've left my garden alone this fall. First one I catch eating a tomato I'm filling the freezer again.
One of the best fall gardens I’ve had. Everything is doing great, haven’t had to spray any insecticide or fungicides. Ate a damn good broccoli, spinach, sweet pepper, banana pepper, Swiss chard salad today with boiled eggs from the back yard flock. Considering making a turnip root and pork strew soon on the next cold snap.
I have 5 raised beds, my brother suggested to me to take a packet of broccoli seed and sprinkle it it in a small group in early August, then when they grow to a decent size early Oct, you pull them then transplant into your main garden. Worked out great, 90% of everything in my garden I started by seed.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/10/20 at 8:39 am to FowlGuy
Beautiful!
Your garden area looks a lot like my plan for retirement.
ETA: Re-worded to make better sense.
Your garden area looks a lot like my plan for retirement.
ETA: Re-worded to make better sense.
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re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by LSUlefty on 11/10/20 at 9:17 am to PillageUrVillage
Anyone start picking yet? Looks like I'll pick my first turnips this weekend.
re: 2020 Garden ThreadPosted by PillageUrVillage on 11/10/20 at 9:26 am to LSUlefty
I’ve gotten some good heads of cauliflower already.
Also picked a ton of mustard greens. Blanched and froze some, and cooked some.
Brussel sprouts are still growing. 4 of my broccoli plants bolted, but I finally have a couple of heads coming in on other plants. I should have some cabbage ready soon, and I’ve been picking a few tomatoes here and there.
Also picked a ton of mustard greens. Blanched and froze some, and cooked some.
Brussel sprouts are still growing. 4 of my broccoli plants bolted, but I finally have a couple of heads coming in on other plants. I should have some cabbage ready soon, and I’ve been picking a few tomatoes here and there.
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