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Posted on 10/9/18 at 10:33 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
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Salomon sense ride but I don’t have enough miles on em to review them yet.
i'm giving a hard look at the salomons and merrells.
even though i really don't like nike's, the terra kiger has good reviews. been thinking about them as well.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 5:54 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
New Balance 1500v4 Review
Retail: $110
Paid: $90
This is a race ready offering from New Balance that is advertised to be a "from 5K to marathon" racing flat.
The Good:
This is the best upper of any running shoe I've ever used. It's a real snug fit, with a heel cup that prevents sliding, almost no break in period, and is super breathable. Feels quick even if your not and looks good even if you don't. Grippy. Very stable.
The Bad:
It's been said you can barley feel the "t-bar" in the sole, but you can feel it and IMO, it doesn't feel good. Running in these feel like banging two rocks together. RevLite foam is nothing more than basic EVA foam. So basically, you're running on 1960's technology except you feel like a complete a-hole because you paid 2018's money for it.
I'll be honest, I didn't do my research when I first purchased these shoes and they were kind of an impulse buy. I was able to not notice how much I disliked the mid-sole because most of the miles logged on them until recently was treadmill speedwork.
Verdict:
I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out who these shoes are for. They have a 6mm drop, so maybe the minimal market. The 1500 is heavy for a flat coming in at 8.6 ounces, and have no energy return so they're useless for long distance. New Balance has at least two other offerings using this prehistoric mid-sole that are close to the same weight or lighter so these are just cannibalizing the NB market.
I guess you should buy these if...
You want the real running in the 1970s running shoe experience.
Running Warehouse $79.88
Retail: $110
Paid: $90
This is a race ready offering from New Balance that is advertised to be a "from 5K to marathon" racing flat.
The Good:
This is the best upper of any running shoe I've ever used. It's a real snug fit, with a heel cup that prevents sliding, almost no break in period, and is super breathable. Feels quick even if your not and looks good even if you don't. Grippy. Very stable.
The Bad:
It's been said you can barley feel the "t-bar" in the sole, but you can feel it and IMO, it doesn't feel good. Running in these feel like banging two rocks together. RevLite foam is nothing more than basic EVA foam. So basically, you're running on 1960's technology except you feel like a complete a-hole because you paid 2018's money for it.
I'll be honest, I didn't do my research when I first purchased these shoes and they were kind of an impulse buy. I was able to not notice how much I disliked the mid-sole because most of the miles logged on them until recently was treadmill speedwork.
Verdict:
I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out who these shoes are for. They have a 6mm drop, so maybe the minimal market. The 1500 is heavy for a flat coming in at 8.6 ounces, and have no energy return so they're useless for long distance. New Balance has at least two other offerings using this prehistoric mid-sole that are close to the same weight or lighter so these are just cannibalizing the NB market.
I guess you should buy these if...
You want the real running in the 1970s running shoe experience.
Running Warehouse $79.88
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:35 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Had these in my cart a time or two. Thanks for the review and now glad I didn’t pull the trigger.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:41 pm to 3nOut
If you use runningwarehouse use code bayoud when you check out.
Nike ZoomFlys are the shite. I was always a Nike hater until these shoes hit my feet. If I still ran a lot I would drop the money for the 4% VaporFlyd
Nike ZoomFlys are the shite. I was always a Nike hater until these shoes hit my feet. If I still ran a lot I would drop the money for the 4% VaporFlyd
Posted on 10/25/18 at 5:01 am to tke_swamprat
Zoom Flys are my racing shoe and will be my next review.
@ TR people love those things according to the reviews. Maybe they’re coming from the New Balance homers? NB makes great shoes and fresh foam is superior.
@ TR people love those things according to the reviews. Maybe they’re coming from the New Balance homers? NB makes great shoes and fresh foam is superior.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:06 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I’ve never heard great things about the 1500. It’s a less fast, more supportive (I’m guessing that’s the bar you felt) 1400 from my understanding.
NB uses the 1400 model for a lot of its other variants because it’s pretty well loved.
NB uses the 1400 model for a lot of its other variants because it’s pretty well loved.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 7:53 am to 3nOut
It’s just such a letdown because it feels fast but is so slow.
I mean the difference between my Tuesday run and yesterday is almost 20 seconds a mile. (NB vs Altra)
The Zoom Flys are 34 seconds faster on my 5K.
You replace RevLite with Fresh Foam on this shoe, it’d be an amazing shoe.
I mean the difference between my Tuesday run and yesterday is almost 20 seconds a mile. (NB vs Altra)
The Zoom Flys are 34 seconds faster on my 5K.
You replace RevLite with Fresh Foam on this shoe, it’d be an amazing shoe.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 7:22 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
Ran in the 4%s for the first time yesterday. I've never run in Nikes, but I'm a convert. Only going to use them for track work and some key long runs along with races, but I'm now considering flipping over to the Pegasus Turbo as my daily shoes from Kinvaras because the foam feels so good.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:16 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
How does the sizing of the Zoom FLy compare to the NB 1500. I typically wear 9.5 in NB. Should I purchase a half size up or down in the Zoom Fly?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:57 pm to Black n Gold
I typically wear a 10 in NB and Nike, although not those particular models.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:21 pm to Black n Gold
The model counts. If you wear a new balance 9.5 you'll need a 10 in the NB 1500. They are notoriously smaller than the typical model.
Zoom seems to be close to true size (it'll be tight but aight) but you can afford to go a half size up because of the fly wire system. I went with my true size and it worked out but it usually does because I have some narrow feet.
Zoom seems to be close to true size (it'll be tight but aight) but you can afford to go a half size up because of the fly wire system. I went with my true size and it worked out but it usually does because I have some narrow feet.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:21 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
That's shitty since I can find a half size down and up for $30 cheaper.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:52 am to Black n Gold
Just bought some Skechers Go Run 6 to replace my Escalantes. Picked them up for 45; can’t wait.
ETA: apparently those were the lady’s stats on the shoe.
ETA: apparently those were the lady’s stats on the shoe.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:58 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Retired the Altra Escalantes at 330 which is great for a midsole that thin. Would have bought another pair if I could find them at the deep discount I previously paid. EGO is the best foam I’ve run on so far and it’s too bad Altra only uses it in 2 shoes.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 6:10 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Burt - How long was your transition to zero drop, in particular the Escalante? According to Strava I’ve got about 30 miles on mine. I’d have to go back and look, but the longest I’ve run in them that I can remember is 6 miles. I’m debating running my first race in them this weekend (13.1), but don’t wanna run into issues at mile 10. Perhaps I’m being too paranoid? May be placebo, but I am faster in them with better cadence as well.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:07 pm to TigeRoots
I’d say about a hundred and fifty miles before the discomfort in my calves and ankles subsided.
I’d use them for medium distance at first then at 150 I was comfortable enough to use them for long runs. I maxed out at 17 on them and they were fine.
I’m a mid foot striker though so I don’t know if this information is helpful. Also, since I’m a mid foot guy, I feel I didn’t get as many miles as some other folk might.
I have a feeling if you race them, you’ll regret it. I definitely would have if I had raced them early. That being said, once you’re used to them, they will feel very fast.
Finally, they really didn’t do a lot for my cadance as far as I can tell. At least I couldn’t differentiate between increased cadance versus running fast because I was training to be faster. (More speed work)
I’d use them for medium distance at first then at 150 I was comfortable enough to use them for long runs. I maxed out at 17 on them and they were fine.
I’m a mid foot striker though so I don’t know if this information is helpful. Also, since I’m a mid foot guy, I feel I didn’t get as many miles as some other folk might.
I have a feeling if you race them, you’ll regret it. I definitely would have if I had raced them early. That being said, once you’re used to them, they will feel very fast.
Finally, they really didn’t do a lot for my cadance as far as I can tell. At least I couldn’t differentiate between increased cadance versus running fast because I was training to be faster. (More speed work)
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 4:56 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:16 pm to 3nOut
Train in On Running Cloudflow
Race or tempo run in On Running Cloudracer
I've been thru all the companies and models since the mid 80's. Since I've learned to run on forefoot I have had good success with On Running shoes. I run as fast in these as I did my Newtons.
Race or tempo run in On Running Cloudracer
I've been thru all the companies and models since the mid 80's. Since I've learned to run on forefoot I have had good success with On Running shoes. I run as fast in these as I did my Newtons.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:17 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Yeah, I think I’m gonna hold off and roll the Ghost or Solar Boosts. My ankles/calves are small and weak, so don’t want to chance anything.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 7:20 pm to 91TIGER
Never tried on a pair of On, although I’d like to.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 7:20 pm
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