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Posted on 9/15/19 at 8:15 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Alright, just bought some Adidas Bostons for my interval/tempo/race runs and Brooks Launch for my other daily runs. fricking pumped. Been running in Ghost for probably close to 2 years now and am ready for a change.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 5:04 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Burtimus, bought my first pair of boosts. Solar drive, more of a cushion shoe than a race shoe, but found it for $30 so thought I’d sell out and try Adidas.
Won’t try them for a while as I’m taking off tomorrow to travel to my race this weekend.
Won’t try them for a while as I’m taking off tomorrow to travel to my race this weekend.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:22 pm to 3nOut
Hey, 3nout, where'd you find the deal on the Solar Drives?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:51 am to vistajay
Burlington coat factory.
They had Solar Glides, Solar Drives, Alpha Bounces (which look cool but seem heavy AF) and Adizero Tempos. All for less than $45.
Mileage may vary. I had birthday money. If I were just loaded, I would have bought the Tempos, Solar Drives, and Bounces. But that would be stupid.
They had Solar Glides, Solar Drives, Alpha Bounces (which look cool but seem heavy AF) and Adizero Tempos. All for less than $45.
Mileage may vary. I had birthday money. If I were just loaded, I would have bought the Tempos, Solar Drives, and Bounces. But that would be stupid.
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:57 am to HandGrenade
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Anyone have experience with Altra shoes? I just ordered a pair of the Kayenta
I bought my first pair of Altra when the company was just a year old. I have run exclusively in them ever since. I liked "The One," which they have discontinued. I managed to find one more pair of them in August. I'm not sure what I'll do when it's time for a new pair. I'd like to try the Escalante and Vanish models. How do you like your Kayentas?
Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:19 pm to 3nOut
I’ve settled into Adidas because I always know what I’m getting. Everyone seems to like the Solars from what I’ve heard, but I always thought they were just a touch too heavy for me. Bet it’s a great Sunday shoe though. Hope you enjoy them.
Posted on 10/8/19 at 2:05 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
2 solid runs on the boosts SolarDrives. Both were mildly uptempo with a bit of pushing at some points. Can definitely feel the bounce when I pick it up as cushion and not just being stiff.
Honestly like them more than my current Brooks. Probably not more than my ghosts, but more than my Cascadias or Anthems.
Haven’t done any LSDs in them but I’ll try that tomorrow afternoon probably.
Honestly like them more than my current Brooks. Probably not more than my ghosts, but more than my Cascadias or Anthems.
Haven’t done any LSDs in them but I’ll try that tomorrow afternoon probably.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:16 pm to 3nOut
Okay...some of you may have seen me post about some knee/calf pain in the running thread. Was pretty sure it was IT band issues, and it may have been...but I think I found the problem.
Labor Day weekend I went to Fleet Feet and got fit into some Brooks Adrenaline GTS19’s. First run was fine, but pretty much every run thereafter resulted in the same pain in the same area. As a shoe hoarder, I tried to be reasonable and convince myself it was my form (probably still an issue) and not the shoes, so a couple weeks ago I did 3 miles in my Nike Zoom Fly Flyknits and had no pain. I then did 6 miles in the Brooks and had pain. So I said okay I’ll wait and run three and see what happens, then a couple days later I’ll run in the Nikes for another comparison.
Sure enough, 3 miles in the Brooks = pain, 4 miles in the Nikes today = nothing. I also play soccer twice a week and have never been able to reproduce the same knee pain.
I ran in Mizuno Wave Inspire 15’s before, so I don’t think stability is the issue. I have no idea what it is about the Brooks that’s causing knee and calf pain, unless 2mm of drop can really have that big of an effect? What do y’all think? Should I start looking in the 8-10mm drop range? Do I reallllly need a stability shoe? I’ve been fit twice and both times they said I had “slight probation on my left” but they put me in max stability shoes anyway.
Labor Day weekend I went to Fleet Feet and got fit into some Brooks Adrenaline GTS19’s. First run was fine, but pretty much every run thereafter resulted in the same pain in the same area. As a shoe hoarder, I tried to be reasonable and convince myself it was my form (probably still an issue) and not the shoes, so a couple weeks ago I did 3 miles in my Nike Zoom Fly Flyknits and had no pain. I then did 6 miles in the Brooks and had pain. So I said okay I’ll wait and run three and see what happens, then a couple days later I’ll run in the Nikes for another comparison.
Sure enough, 3 miles in the Brooks = pain, 4 miles in the Nikes today = nothing. I also play soccer twice a week and have never been able to reproduce the same knee pain.
I ran in Mizuno Wave Inspire 15’s before, so I don’t think stability is the issue. I have no idea what it is about the Brooks that’s causing knee and calf pain, unless 2mm of drop can really have that big of an effect? What do y’all think? Should I start looking in the 8-10mm drop range? Do I reallllly need a stability shoe? I’ve been fit twice and both times they said I had “slight probation on my left” but they put me in max stability shoes anyway.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 10/11/19 at 6:16 am to jordan21210
Sound like you got poor advice/service from Fleet. That sucks and from what you described, no you didn’t need stability shoes. Also, starting you off in a low drop is a rookie mistake too. I feel really bad for you because it sounds like you got worked over.
If the the shoes hurt, stop running in them. They might still be a good walking shoe for you though which would help you get used to low drop if that’s your goal eventually, plus the different density of the foam in the heel for stability won’t really come into play using them for low impact stuff.
Happens to us all. We’ve all gotten burned by a pair of shoes. Good luck on your next pair and the confirmation that you’re a neutral runner is worth the cost of admission. Cheers!
Edit: The knee pain is probably from the stability and the calf pain is the drop for clarification.
If the the shoes hurt, stop running in them. They might still be a good walking shoe for you though which would help you get used to low drop if that’s your goal eventually, plus the different density of the foam in the heel for stability won’t really come into play using them for low impact stuff.
Happens to us all. We’ve all gotten burned by a pair of shoes. Good luck on your next pair and the confirmation that you’re a neutral runner is worth the cost of admission. Cheers!
Edit: The knee pain is probably from the stability and the calf pain is the drop for clarification.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 6:48 am
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:12 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I may have worded that post a bit weird...sorry it was late. The Brooks I got fit into were a 12mm drop, the Nikes I have are a 10mm drop, hence the 2mm diff. What’s weird is that I started running in Mizunos that were also a 12mm drop stability shoe, maybe it was the sizing or just the way Brooks achieves the stability with their “guide rails” that was letting the shoe control my gait more than I could? No idea. But for whatever reason, the Nikes just work. I have to go to Houston next weekend so probably (much to my financial dismay) will make a pit stop at the Clearanxe outlet to see if they have any cheap Peg turbos or other shoes I could use as trainers. Was trying to keep the Zoom Flys as more of my race shoe, although they would do just fine as a trainer too.
I don’t think Fleet screwed me over, they brought out 3 or 4 pairs of shoes and let me try them out and I chose the Brooks bc I liked the cushion they provided. I think now I’m just a little more skeptical of the stability shoe trend. I feel like every new runner that gets fit automatically gets put in stability shoes and I don’t know if that’s always the correct answer.
I don’t think Fleet screwed me over, they brought out 3 or 4 pairs of shoes and let me try them out and I chose the Brooks bc I liked the cushion they provided. I think now I’m just a little more skeptical of the stability shoe trend. I feel like every new runner that gets fit automatically gets put in stability shoes and I don’t know if that’s always the correct answer.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 7:14 am
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:21 am to jordan21210
Brooks have a 90 day return policy. If you don’t want to keep them I’d check with Fleet. They should honor the policy. If not contact Brooks directly.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:37 am to jordan21210
Roger that. Thanks for the clarification. I really meant to say it seemed like you got the “new guy” more than getting screwed. As for the stability shoe thing, you’re correct there is no good science there. Running is full of bad science; it’s all a marketing scheme. Buying shoes is just rolling the damn dice which is why I’ll never pay full price for a pair. There’s nothing quite like the feeling you get spending a hundred plus dollars on something you can’t wear.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:41 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
Exactly. Although the weakness in my hips and glutes says I need support, I can’t help but wonder if my 10+ years of playing soccer means I’ve adapted to running in a lower drop. Who knows...can’t wait for my PT consult next week.
Agreed on the money side too...I’ve gone 0/2 on paying full price for shoes. My Mizunos were actually good, just a little firm and more road feel than I like. Meanwhile, my outlet find $45 Zoom Flys are amazing. Thank goodness Brooks has a 90 day return window, otherwise I’d have to swallow $140 and pay for a new pair of trainers.
Agreed on the money side too...I’ve gone 0/2 on paying full price for shoes. My Mizunos were actually good, just a little firm and more road feel than I like. Meanwhile, my outlet find $45 Zoom Flys are amazing. Thank goodness Brooks has a 90 day return window, otherwise I’d have to swallow $140 and pay for a new pair of trainers.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 8:18 am to jordan21210
Finally got some good miles in on my Zoom Fly 3's and I'm torn between them and my Flyknit 4%. The ZF3 feels like it has more room for my foot to move but feel like bricks compared to the 4%. Going to try some new socks this weekend and see how the 4% feel with something a little less thick.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 11:44 am to jordan21210
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I don’t think Fleet screwed me over, they brought out 3 or 4 pairs of shoes and let me try them out and I chose the Brooks bc I liked the cushion they provided. I think now I’m just a little more skeptical of the stability shoe trend. I feel like every new runner that gets fit automatically gets put in stability shoes and I don’t know if that’s always the correct answer.
i would not go for a stability shoe unless you know you need them explicitly. i'm curious why the FF guy would push them otherwise. if you're neutral and want cushion, they should have recommended the glycerin.
I run with drops from 14mm to 2mm and don't have issues, but i go for neutrals because i have flawless feet in terms of shoe fits.
the only pair of stability i have was bought just to try out some cheap sauconys. they give me a bit rub, but i mainly just use them as shoes i keep in the car for travel. they're fine but i don't use them for dailies.
Posted on 10/11/19 at 12:38 pm to 3nOut
In FF defense, LA Running and Walking Co put me in stability shoes as well, so I guess there is something there. That said, I’ve run in neutrals and they’ve never bothered me, so not sure stability is a necessity. My feet are pretty good in terms of fit as well...size 9, narrow/med heal, med/high arch, normal width forefoot/toe. My Zoom Fly’s are snug, but no uncomfortably so, and they’re honestly probably a half size too small.
This post was edited on 10/11/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:11 pm to jordan21210
Anyone else see this write up on Kipchoge’s shoes? Nike AlphaFly. Some wild tech: 3 carbon fiber plates, 4 air pods (2 stacked on top each other), plus the foam. Gonna be like $400 for a pair
LINK
LINK
Posted on 10/13/19 at 1:14 pm to jordan21210
Sounds like he broke 2 in spite of those shoes not because of them.
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