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Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:37 pm to LSUfan20005
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All four of my kids did Ninja Warrior around the ages of 7-12 (all did soccer early) and all of them finished markedly more athletic than before. The teens moved on to high school sports of their choosing, the littles are still dabbling in soccer, wrestling, and gymnastics.
outside of weightlifting or true gymnastics strength training.....I think ninja warrior type classes are the best way to develop athletism and way better than the "speed" classes i see where a coach has kids running around cones screaming "slow feet, don't eat!"
little slower development compared to gst or weightlifting but until puberty might be the overall best thing for kids to do and certainly one of the best add ons to a team sport for kids under 10
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:47 pm to TigerAlum93
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Might need to try an unconventional sport, say Jui Jitsu/MMA, etc
I actually tried Jui Jitsu first, and it just ruined his confidence because he kept losing. It got to the point to where he dreaded going.
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While my kids ended up playing past high school, my reason for them playing athletics had little to do with their sports careers and more to do with the adults they would become. I am a HUGE believer that all kids should play a team sport, I truly believe it makes for a better adult. SO many life lessons sports teaches that CANNOT be taught in the classroom, in addition to getting them outside and off their phones/video games.
Agree 100%. That's why I want him to get involved with some sports. But his attitude prevents him from even trying. If he doesn't get good immediately, he wants to give up. And if he realizes you have to practice to get good, that gets more discouraging for him. That's what I struggle with, he doesn't 'want' to do any of it.
The kid is smart. His strength is his intelligence. He is much smarter than I was at his age, but his physical abilities lack. Like I said, I just want him to learn the life skills through sports, but his attitude prevents him from enjoying it or having fun.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:56 pm to Chimlim
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Agree 100%. That's why I want him to get involved with some sports. But his attitude prevents him from even trying. If he doesn't get good immediately, he wants to give up. And if he realizes you have to practice to get good, that gets more discouraging for him. That's what I struggle with, he doesn't 'want' to do any of it.
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I actually tried Jui Jitsu first, and it just ruined his confidence because he kept losing. It got to the point to where he dreaded going.
man thats tough
got to get him to understand hard work=success
not sure how to do that though.
i would look at the ninja warrior course and explain to him before going, its a go at your own pace and it is not a competition.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:09 pm to lsu777
I've got one around that age that is pretty good at sports but just doesn't have any drive. He'll throw a ball all day but you start trying to work on skills or do something that's not fun and he's out.
I'm hoping once he starts getting some testosterone flowing it'll help.
I'm hoping once he starts getting some testosterone flowing it'll help.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:10 pm to lsu777
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got to get him to understand hard work=success
not sure how to do that though.
You don't. Kids either have it or they don't. You can't coach will or heart.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:15 pm to StringedInstruments
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The biggest hurdle will be overcoming his whining. He'll be excited at first, but I can already see him wanting to quit as the weeks go on. I'll have to build in some positive reinforcement in the form of tangible rewards as he reaches benchmarks.
If you can curb this, you are in business with everything else. I do wonder if 10 is too old to reverse that though.
Would definitely start small & build up. I wouldn’t worry too much about athleticism as I would about skill development.
I don’t know shite about soccer, but imo, baseball skills is a pathway to hand/eye is other hand + ball sports. example would be playing ‘wall ball’ with him against a wall with a tennis ball. Or soft toss, using varying color / sized balls. Easy things like that. Has to be done consistently or it really doesn’t matter, especially if he isn’t naturally gifted.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
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If you can curb this, you are in business with everything else
if he does curb it, he needs to update how cause lots of parents have this issue. took my oldest to middle school to stop it
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:29 pm to lsu777
I do wonder what it would be like to be an only child or without a sibling near you in age. In terms of building toughness both mentally & physically. And having someone to play (train) with.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:45 pm to Lester Earl
seems many times that helps the younger kids and i do feel like parents get better over time with knowing where you need to be at certain ages.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:33 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I've got one around that age that is pretty good at sports but just doesn't have any drive. He'll throw a ball all day but you start trying to work on skills or do something that's not fun and he's out.
I'm hoping once he starts getting some testosterone flowing it'll help.
I played D1 Baseball. I can remember my dad watching baseball on TV when I was 9 years old outside playing with GI Joe, and I asked him how all those guys could enjoy chasing a little white ball around for hours, doing a lot of standing around, LOL.
This generation IMHO reads WAAAAAYYYY too much into what kids do pre-puberty. I feel for them. The pressure they all put on each other to keep up with the Jones's athletically, don't want to get "passed up", etc.
Don't get me wrong, teach them a work ethic EARLY, chores around the house, pay them extra for above and beyond stuff like yard work, make them earn what they get. Just make sure to keep sports FUN. The ump says "Play ball" not "work ball".
I was the worst player on my 9 year old team. Finally made all-stars at 12 (grew a few inches). Made all everything my senior year. Got tired of being average, hit the weight room hard in high school. Give them the tools and opportunity, encourage them, but let THEM find their passion by introducing them to different things. If they are passionate about it they will do the work, and it won't seem like work to them, success will follow.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:50 pm to TigerAlum93
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I played D1 Baseball. I can remember my dad watching baseball on TV when I was 9 years old outside playing with GI Joe, and I asked him how all those guys could enjoy chasing a little white ball around for hours, doing a lot of standing around, LOL.
This generation IMHO reads WAAAAAYYYY too much into what kids do pre-puberty. I feel for them. The pressure they all put on each other to keep up with the Jones's athletically, don't want to get "passed up", etc.
Don't get me wrong, teach them a work ethic EARLY, chores around the house, pay them extra for above and beyond stuff like yard work, make them earn what they get. Just make sure to keep sports FUN. The ump says "Play ball" not "work ball".
I was the worst player on my 9 year old team. Finally made all-stars at 12 (grew a few inches). Made all everything my senior year. Got tired of being average, hit the weight room hard in high school. Give them the tools and opportunity, encourage them, but let THEM find their passion by introducing them to different things. If they are passionate about it they will do the work, and it won't seem like work to them, success will follow.
the difference is now a days those kids dont even get the chance to make the hs baseball team because they are so far behind due to travel ball, advanced training etc.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:14 pm to lsu777
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the difference is now a days those kids dont even get the chance to make the hs baseball team because they are so far behind due to travel ball, advanced training etc.
This x 1,000. I was at my buddy’s last Saturday night hanging out by his pool after they had been gone all day (2 hours away) at travel ball. He said his son likely won’t make his high school team due to the competition being so intense. And he’s on the all star travel team or whatever. And they were waking up the following day to do the same shite. I was like wtf. Whole weekend gone.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 3:22 pm to TigeRoots
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This x 1,000. I was at my buddy’s last Saturday night hanging out by his pool after they had been gone all day (2 hours away) at travel ball. He said his son likely won’t make his high school team due to the competition being so intense. And he’s on the all star travel team or whatever. And they were waking up the following day to do the same shite. I was like wtf. Whole weekend gone.
i have 2 in it, oldest isnt nearly as into it and only played league and is finshed now
im really into it just because they like it and if they stick with it, they wont have a problem making whatever HS team they choose if they continue to work hard.
but yea it sucks sometimes losing your whole weekend and i dont get why people do it if kid wont play in HS.
wish it was different in LA but if you arent playing very high level travel, you arent making the schools that are 3a and above and actually compete for championships like barbe, st louis, sam houston, sulphur, iowa, south beau, stm, teurlings, VC, ED White, Catholic, St Amant, Live Oak, Dutchtown, Uhigh, Parkview, ND, Jesuit, BM, Rummel, JC, WM, Sterlington, Oak Grove, holy savior menard etc etc
just the way it is now a days and it takes what it takes to be great
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:07 pm to lsu777
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the difference is now a days those kids dont even get the chance to make the hs baseball team because they are so far behind due to travel ball, advanced training etc.
Exactly. My son didn’t make the competitive soccer team at 9, and it feels like a death knell for his soccer playing days. He won’t be connected with the better coaches or opportunities that prepare him for high school ball. Now he’ll have to play catch up. Honestly, the whole structure of it all is ridiculous. Kids should be playing lots of sports - for fun - and getting a feel for their bodies and what they enjoy doing. Not feeling the pressure to be athletically gifted enough to compete with the best at 9.
I’ve gained a better appreciation for football in all of this. Football is a very inclusive sport. They need bodies, and there are so many different types of positions on a football field that anyone has a chance to flourish.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:05 pm to StringedInstruments
My son is 11 and I told him the older he gets the more selective sports become.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:09 pm to StringedInstruments
Have you asked him any hobbies that interest him? I got pushed to play baseball and basketball as a kid as my team. I was fortunate to have a dad who knew what it took to do well in sports because he as successful enough to play in college and get drafted. For me, I found my abilities in running. I ended up running track in college.
In high school, I tried out for football my freshman and sophomore years. I didn't do much at all. Played D end at 5 10 140lbs soaking wet. I wanted to enjoy high school and wanted to get better at football by participating in track. I took up the 800m and mile races. Turns out I was really good at both of those. I eventually gave up on football when my track coach advised me that doing cross country would make me better at track.
I didn't mind that I wasn't doing a sport that required a ton of athleticism and skill. I enjoyed the fact that I was getting good at something, improving, and succeeding.
My advice would be to just watch careful to see what your kid may be good at. It doesn't even have to be sports. They can find some sort of activity they excel in.
In high school, I tried out for football my freshman and sophomore years. I didn't do much at all. Played D end at 5 10 140lbs soaking wet. I wanted to enjoy high school and wanted to get better at football by participating in track. I took up the 800m and mile races. Turns out I was really good at both of those. I eventually gave up on football when my track coach advised me that doing cross country would make me better at track.
I didn't mind that I wasn't doing a sport that required a ton of athleticism and skill. I enjoyed the fact that I was getting good at something, improving, and succeeding.
My advice would be to just watch careful to see what your kid may be good at. It doesn't even have to be sports. They can find some sort of activity they excel in.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:22 am to StringedInstruments
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Exactly. My son didn’t make the competitive soccer team at 9, and it feels like a death knell for his soccer playing days. He won’t be connected with the better coaches or opportunities that prepare him for high school ball. Now he’ll have to play catch up. Honestly, the whole structure of it all is ridiculous. Kids should be playing lots of sports - for fun - and getting a feel for their bodies and what they enjoy doing. Not feeling the pressure to be athletically gifted enough to compete with the best at 9.
Man it’s cool on TD to bash travel baseball but it’s million times better than club soccer. In soccer, it’s like you said, you either make the team or go play rec and not many people around giving lessons etc
Travel baseball there are other levels with the whole aa, aaa, majors and teams and instructors everywhere
Have you thought about just rec soccer and get private instruction either through an online academy or local guy? I dunno much shot the soccer culture like I do baseball so dunno if that is possible.
I do know those that complain about travel baseball and how it’s made HS too competitive would freak the frick out of they understood how soccer actually works west the club and high levels
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:58 pm to StringedInstruments
Regarding his work ethic, I think this is the perfect time for a conversation about it to be really impactful for him. Talk to him about how he feels not being on that team. Remind him about the times that you have tried to help him and he whined about it. Let him know that if he wants to make that team next year, he needs to work twice as hard and you are willing to help him if the whining stops.
I have three boys. One, a very gifted athlete and the other two just a bit behind compared to where he was at their age. He is the oldest though and was always the kid working at the pitch back by himself at 7 instead of playing video games. You can’t teach that. The other two, I take their devices away constantly to force them outside. Now, both have the tools it takes to be good, they just don’t have the drive their older brother has. It may come with time. But we often talk about the work they need to put in and how bad they want it. Luckily they are younger and have a great role model in their older brother, so hopefully it clicks at some point.
I have three boys. One, a very gifted athlete and the other two just a bit behind compared to where he was at their age. He is the oldest though and was always the kid working at the pitch back by himself at 7 instead of playing video games. You can’t teach that. The other two, I take their devices away constantly to force them outside. Now, both have the tools it takes to be good, they just don’t have the drive their older brother has. It may come with time. But we often talk about the work they need to put in and how bad they want it. Luckily they are younger and have a great role model in their older brother, so hopefully it clicks at some point.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:10 am to LSUfan20005
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All four of my kids did Ninja Warrior around the ages of 7-12
If there isn't a ninja warrior type gym in your area I highly recommend MovNat and do it with your kids. There is a ton of free content on YouTube. You and your kids will get stronger and more athletic. You also don't have to invest in a bunch of equipment. Even if they never participate in high school sports it might start them on a lifetime fitness journey.
MovNat has made a huge difference in my life and this 63 year old body. The online MovNat courses can be pricey, IMO, and so can the scheduled events. (They schedule the events all over the world.) If you are cheap like me the free emailed work outs, or practices as they call them, and YouTube videos are more than enough to get you started and keep you moving.
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