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lsu777
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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer
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He's not unlike Martin Berkhan in that way, IMO. Struck gold but didn't develop it for one reason or another (lack of discipline? lack of motivation? no business sense?)...dude put out some god-like material and has hardly any presence or brand


Very much like the Martin of old. Jp issues are for different reasons but behavior is much the same way. With Martin it was lack of business sense and lack of understanding promotion. Then he would get disgusted cause people were not listening to him 100% or people were stealing his work. But it was 100% his fault.

With JP, its more outside personal things that get him side tracked. Wife, military contractor work, abuse etc.

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Dante Trudel stays in the shadows on purpose, JP and Berkhan just can't seem to get out of their own way or something


Dante has true nutrition and has always had his businesses that he runs that are his main focus. The whole doggcrapp training thing has always been a secondary hobby, if that. He also got burned out for a while and just said frick it and it made sense for him, he isn't depending on this stuff for income. All his info was free anyways and he no longer trained people.

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For all the criticism I've thrown at JP, I'll always love and recommend GSLP, irrespective of the character of the creator. His program quite literally saved my life once upon a time


100%. And like I said JP is a good guy and when he is on, he is in. Right know he is on so take advantage. This might be the time he keeps it together and rolling. It certainly is a different dynamic this time with him being back in the gym, not just having it be a card swipe private facility. So we shall see. I am pulling for the guy and will do what I can to help as he has been good to me in the past and kts why I suggest when the book is in full release that you buy it and support him.



numptythrubbers
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777 are you planning on doing any other program write ups?


lsu777
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I prollg need to do one on the greyskull power building, DC training but I just don't have time truthfully


Boring
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Anyone got access to JP's articles from his old site? In particular, I'm looking for one called something like Bringing Up the Back or maybe Building the Back. He references it in the 3rd edition of the Greyskull LP book (in another article called Stuff the Sleeves).

Just curious what the template looks like.


lsu777
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I don't and never copied it down.

BTW he mentioned the new sure msite will be a patreon


burgeman
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You happen to have the tactical barbell stuff still on your drive? I'm looking at that or paying for soflete.


Boring
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tactical barbell stuff


I got it if you want it. Email: brianfleer1@gmail.com


burgeman
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Email sent, thanks


lsu777
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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer
I have it if he doesn't get it to you


burgeman
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Got it, thanks for all the help. Do you have any thoughts on tactical barbell? I've looked at a few overviews and they seem positive


Boring
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Ran it (Operator template, black conditioning) for a few months in the summer after the ‘Rona layoff once I got my home gym setup. My experience was that I lost a lot of size and strength and ultimately ended up spinning my wheels and not making any progress with my numbers or physique. I’m willing to lay most of the blame on the ‘Rona layoff...I really wish I had gone back to LP (SS or Greyskull), skipped my cut, and artificially recreated the conditions of my “noob gains.”

Personally, I found it simultaneously boring and trying to do too much all at the same time. Largely depends what your goals are, I guess. It really may be great for people in the military/LE who need to be proficient in several disciplines but for a civilian desk jockey like me, there are programs/approaches I prefer more. It’s no secret that I think CrossFit is stupid, largely because of all the silly crap they try to push in order to create the illusion of complexity. TB feels that way to me in some respects. All the obnoxious naming conventions aside (also an annoying feature of CroasFit), I think the advice that people will gain plenty of hypertrophy through swinging around kettlebells and carrying sandbags is unhelpful. All in all, the lifting portion really seems to take a backseat to the other conditioning components.

One passage in particular stood out to me; the author gives an anecdote about the fittest person he knows lifts weights 3x per week and does hill runs on off days - praising this approach as a “cyborg factory.” Then a few pages later the author is laying out a bunch of random conditioning protocols that are needlessly complex like:

“This one is called the Manhood Mutilator:

- 400 KB swings
- 20 jumping jacks
- sprint 100m carrying a puppy
- 10 burpees
- repeat 5x”


burgeman
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Lol well I may just go with soflete.


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lsu777
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Haha exactly my thoughts, trying to do to much. Imo better off running the gladiator books from greyskull or running the gslp, maybe even using the template with rpt or 531 then adding everyday conditioning from the conditioning books.


WITNESS23
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Lsu777 did you pull the book from the drive account?
I can't seem to find it.


Eta: found it
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lsu777
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westlake
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Lsu777 did you pull the book from the drive account?
I can't seem to find it.


no some jackass moved all kinds of things around. havent had time to fix, been busy deep diving into the OC search


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Buff Drinklots
Member since Jan 2021
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Hey everybody!

I’d like to introduce myself to this Greyskull forum.

I used to post on the old strengthvillian website back in the day under this same screen name – Buff Drinklots.

I really enjoy running GSLP. I usually keep it simple and run the base program (I’ve tried others, but the base seems to work the best for me). Curls 2x12 and rows(gasp) 2x8 are my main plug ins (sometimes switching out Friday’s back squats with front squats too); the bodyweight work (mainly chins) would be done after my lifting session utilizing the ladder method.

Recently, I built a home gym which includes a ½ rack with a pull up bar, an Olympic bar, a diy fat bar and 345 pounds of bumper plates (and some fractional plates too). After running Super Squats (the dreaded, but awesome, 20 Rep Squat routine) in which I got to 225 for 20 (this was my goal), I started running the base GSLP again.

The only thing I plan on doing different is incorporating “homework” – frequency chins and push-ups, alternating every day (maybe resting one day a week). Now, for those who do this – how did you progress? Did you add reps or sets or both to the daily work? I am a considering myself a beginner with this and stated at 6 sets each – 3 am and 3 pm. I am thinking I should add a set to each next week.

Your thoughts?

Thank you!


lsu777
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incorporating “homework” – frequency chins and push-ups


If you are not doing the Bodyweight homework, you arent doing greyskull.

I know im preaching to the choir to you on that, but wanted to reiterate.

as far as how to do it, easiest i have found is simply the total work method

pick a total number you want to do for each and do them however you can, whenever you can just making sure each set is very sub max.

raise total number weekly by about 10 on pushups, 2 or 3 on chins. 1 rest day a week.


Buff Drinklots
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Thank you for the reply!
Also, I want to say you put together an awesome thread here... I honestly can't believe all info/guidance you have posted - I can't say enough about it. Were you ever on JP's original page? I recall you would post on another small forum someone named "sam" set up... you we very helpful there too!





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lsu777
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westlake
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Were you ever on JP's original page?


Yes, didnt post that much. and yea I was on Sams forum. I plan on posting on the patreon when jp sets it up.


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TigerFanatic99
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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer
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One passage in particular stood out to me; the author gives an anecdote about the fittest person he knows lifts weights 3x per week and does hill runs on off days - praising this approach as a “cyborg factory.” Then a few pages later the author is laying out a bunch of random conditioning protocols that are needlessly complex like:

“This one is called the Manhood Mutilator:

- 400 KB swings
- 20 jumping jacks
- sprint 100m carrying a puppy
- 10 burpees
- repeat 5x”



What kind of puppy are we talking about here? Is this like a chihuahua or a mastiff? Somewhere in-between?


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