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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:57 pm to
Today was W5D2. Bench, Ez Curls, and deads. Felt pretty good overall and all my lifts are progressing nicely. I’ve somewhat stalled out on the ez curls for the time being but I’m trying to really make sure I can get the 2x sets of 10-15 reps with good form. Usually I can hit the first working set at 15 no problem and feel good but the second working set I get an insane pump and barely squeak out 9-10.

I honestly feel very undertrained on this program with only 3x days in the gym and 3x exercises. The FM pushups and chins do help me feel satisfied though. Right now I’m on 7sets of 20 reps for the pushups and 7 sets of 2 reps on the chins.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

I’ve somewhat stalled out on the ez curls for the time bein


When ready switch them for another bicep exercise and get strong as frick on it.

quote:

I honestly feel very undertrained on this program with only 3x days in the gym and 3x exercises.


You can add volume using plug ins from the book.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

LSU777 GSLP for Aesthetics
Week 1:
• Monday-
o Press-2x5,1x5+
o High Incline DB Press-3x10-12
o Weighted Chin-2x6-8
o Yates Row-2x6-8
o Squat-2x5,1x5+

• Wednesday-
o Incline Barbell Bench-2x5,1x5+
o Barbell Curl- 2x10-12
o Close Grip Bench-2x8,1x8+
o DB Side Lateral Raise Super-setted with Face Pulls-2x10-12
o Deadlift-1x5+

• Friday-
o Press-2x5,1x5+
o High Incline DB Press-3x10-12
o Weighted Chin-2x6-8
o Yates Row-2x6-8
o Squat-2x5,1x5+

Week 2:
• Monday-
o Incline Barbell Bench-2x5,1x5+
o Barbell Curl- 2x10-12
o Close Grip Bench-2x8,1x8+
o DB Side Lateral Raise Super-setted with Face Pulls-2x10-12
o Squat-2x5,1x5+

• Wednesday-
o Press-2x5,1x5+
o High Incline DB Press-3x10-12
o Weighted Chin-2x6-8
o Yates Row-2x6-8
o Deadlift-1x5+

• Friday-
o Incline Barbell Bench-2x5,1x5+
o Barbell Curl- 2x10-12
o Close Grip Bench-2x8,1x8+
o DB Side Lateral Raise Super-setted with Face Pulls-2x10-12
o Squat-2x5,1x5+


If I do this, would doing some cardio on Tuesdays & Thursdays be helpful? I seem to be stuck around 163 lbs (height: 5'5", age: 40), although how I look is more important than weight itself, I really want to tone up my midsection. I'll try to post a picture in a little while. I would say I'm between 23-25% BF. I would like to get as close to 15% BF as I can reasonably maintain.

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Press-2x5,1x5+


Is this all at the same weight?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 9:00 pm to
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Is this all at the same weight?


Yes the 3 working sets are all at the same weight. The AMRAP will let you know if you need to do a standard or double increase next workout.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:15 am to
quote:

If I do this, would doing some cardio on Tuesdays & Thursdays be helpful? I seem to be stuck around 163 lbs (height: 5'5", age: 40), although how I look is more important than weight itself, I really want to tone up my midsection. I'll try to post a picture in a little while. I would say I'm between 23-25% BF. I would like to get as close to 15% BF as I can reasonably maintain.



Do this

Diet- 163*12.5= 2035 calories
Protein- 300g daily- 1200 calories
cabrs- no carbs on non lifting days, no carbs after 2pm on lifting days

Cardio- pick any two out of these books and do one on wednesday and one on saturday. 12 min time cap on the exercises. If you can't finish in 12 min, do your best and record the reps completed and try to beat it next time.


Also you can do fasting walking every morning. Goal is to eventually get to 360 min a week. Read this
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45624 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

My squats are increasing like crazy. I’ve been doing double increases this whole time 10lbs each session and somehow I keep powering through the AMRAP with 8-10. I started really low on the weight progression but I’m still impressed.


Awesome job
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16690 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 7:40 pm to
Thanks. I've really been feeling demotivated lately and need to kick things up a notch. I've been dealing with a sore lower back on my right side. Getting a massage has helped with backing off on weight for some lifts. Here are some pictures from 1.5 weeks ago. I suck at taking pictures.


Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 9/28/18 at 9:15 pm to
Do what I said, really hot the weight sessions with everything you have
Posted by Theboot32
Member since Jan 2016
2452 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 12:57 pm to
I'm just starting GSLP with Phraks variant. Confused on the warmup I should do each exercise. I read what you wrote in the original post but not really following. Start with bar only and then....?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:29 pm to
Yeah I was confused on that too. I don’t think there’s any sort of calculation for example if I was going to use 185 for my working sets I would do 3 warmup sets 5xbar, 5x 95, 5x 135 and then the three working sets.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:51 pm to
no calculation. just do three or 4 quick sets working up in weight.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 5:01 pm to
Hey brother check your email when you get a minute.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 8:52 pm to
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Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:44 pm to
Just checking in and looking for an opinion of my next cycle. I finally had to reset, I was hitting some exercises for 2x3, 1x3+ reps, went backpacking and was completely wrecked from climbing mountains took the last week off and after checking in with John Schaefer on Instagram on a few things here’s my next long cycle I have planned. Two things, my back takes a beating from my job and isn’t in my opinion 100% but going to doctor will have to wait. It’s fine for most part but I just feel spinal loading movements are a risk don’t want to take for now but I still want to work my legs. Here it is:

Monday: hipbelt squat 2x8,1x8+
Standing press 2x5,1x5+
Inverted bodyweight row 2x6-10
Plank progression I found

Wednesday: low Incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Sumo deadlift or trap bar deadlift 1x5
which one would be easier on low back?
Inverted bodyweight row 2x6-10
Plank progression

Friday: Seated press from pins in rack 2x5,1x5+
Kettelbell goblet squat 2x10, 1x10+
Dumbbell step ups ( not sure of set/rep progression)
Inverted bodyweight row 2x6-10
Plank progression

Week 2 would alternate between incline press and close grip bench

Homework:


Weekly 5x per week nightly eccentric chin ups building up to 6-10 negatives five x per week

Frequency method pushups but using peaking plan I found again done 5 times per week frequency sets throughout the day

How does this look? Over or under training? Solid minimalist plan? Goals are get better at chins, pushups, and add strength and a little muscle while emphasizing a minimalistic approach and recovery/protecting back..

Here is grease the groove pushup plan I found, pls give me your thoughts

LINK /



This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:40 pm to
Plan looks great, especially for goals. Hit it hard, hit some conditioning with that and it looks like a plan to churn out a healthy beast if you stick to it. I suggest hitting the conditioning exercises from the books hard 3 times a week.

For the pushups, looks like a great plan, except for after you reach 80%, I wouldn't start a peaking cycle unless you are close to completing the greyskull challenge of 100 in 2 min. I would add 20% to overall volume at that point and start the cycle over.

Interested in what John had to say? He has been quite since his surgery until the last week or so.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 4:33 am to
Finished up week 6. Progressions minus the OHP are going pretty great. What I’ve realized especially on squats is even with the double increases each session I’m still getting 10+ on the AMRAP. It’s more about getting used to the weight on my back than muscular strength for me at this point.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 6:44 am to
That’s your CNS adapting. Give it time. You’ll hit a re-enforced brick wall soon enough.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 9:28 am to
yep like Deafjam said, eventually you will hit a wall with squats like you have with OHP. But its as simple as resetting and eventually switching out the exercise only to evnetually to return to back squats and blowing past the previous PR's
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 3:07 pm to
He didn’t say much, didn’t even know he had surgery actually. He just gave me some advice on hitting the negatives more than 2-3 x a week telling me to not worry about hitting them too much and to do them 5-6 x a week.

Couple questions, should I try Sumo or atick with Trap bar deads? I have very long arms and just concerned about keeping low back feeling ok?

For the pushup plan, are you saying to follow it as is written but when I get to the week where I have dropped the frequency sets and am doing 75-80% of my one set max each set to not go into the 1 max set a day week but instead add 10-20 % and start over? Can you give example of what it would look like?

Thanks
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35006 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Couple questions, should I try Sumo or atick with Trap bar deads? I have very long arms and just concerned about keeping low back feeling ok?


trap bar

quote:

aiming for 150 repetitions total each day
Week 1: 6 sets of 25
Week 2: 5 sets of 30
Week 3: 4 sets of 35 (only 140 reps, so add in a set of 10 reps)
Week 4: 3 sets of 40 (only 120 reps, so add in a set of 30)


above is from the link. Instead of moving to the peaking portion of the program as written add 20% to 150 so move to 180 a day.

Week 5: 7 sets of 25
Week 6: 6 sets of 30
Week 7: 5 sets of 36
Week 8: 4 sets of 45

add 20% again so go to 215 and repeat. keep doing that until you are doing mutiple sets a day of 75 with ease

also take a week long deload every 8 weeks.
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