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Posted on 9/4/18 at 6:37 pm to lsu777
Why does JP hate on Rippetoe so much?
Posted on 9/4/18 at 8:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Because rippetoe acts like a fricking **** anytime somebody doesn't agree one million percent with what he says. It's his way only, no deviation or you aren't doing his program if you do deviate even one thing.
It's the reason Johnny is no longer the nutrition guy on starting strength. Why Glen pendlay is no longer mark's partner in WFA. Why the barbell medicine crew are no longer starting strength coaches.
The whole starting strength for. Is filled with fat pompus arse holes who love to scream you aren't doing the program, that if you are stuck you need to drink a gallon of milk daily and the only way to continue to get stronger is get bigger aka starting strength fat. They love to shite on conjugate, wendler and greyskull it's what those fricks do. It's Mark's way or no way.
Whole reason gslp was born. Mark was JPs mentor, but he had no choice to leave with the way mark acted.
It's the reason Johnny is no longer the nutrition guy on starting strength. Why Glen pendlay is no longer mark's partner in WFA. Why the barbell medicine crew are no longer starting strength coaches.
The whole starting strength for. Is filled with fat pompus arse holes who love to scream you aren't doing the program, that if you are stuck you need to drink a gallon of milk daily and the only way to continue to get stronger is get bigger aka starting strength fat. They love to shite on conjugate, wendler and greyskull it's what those fricks do. It's Mark's way or no way.
Whole reason gslp was born. Mark was JPs mentor, but he had no choice to leave with the way mark acted.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 9:10 pm to lsu777
Gotcha
Posted on 9/8/18 at 8:20 pm to lsu777
Speaking of Wendler and some of those other programs you mentioned, what do you make of Wendler’s 531. I love GSLP but do you think 531 is a better option for a beat up 45 year old type? Does it stress recovery and long term progression more? I’ve always flip flopped between the two and which might be more suitable for me. I’m not a beginner lifter nor a comoetitive powerlifter but my poundages are still sub par I would say...
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 9/8/18 at 9:39 pm to lsu777
Can we post questions here to you about nutrition? Specifically, would you recommend following the “Whole30” program if following GSLP? If you want to lower cholesterol #’s but not necessarily overweight and looking to lose weight, can you still get stronger and make gradual gains eating the whole30 way??
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:43 pm to Bailey25
quote:
Speaking of Wendler and some of those other programs you mentioned, what do you make of Wendler’s 531. I love GSLP but do you think 531 is a better option for a beat up 45 year old type? Does it stress recovery and long term progression more? I’ve always flip flopped between the two and which might be more suitable for me. I’m not a beginner lifter nor a comoetitive powerlifter but my poundages are still sub par I would say...
I love 531 and the average Joe should move to it eventually or reverse pyramid style or rets pause style imo. But you should try to milk the linear gains as long as possible.
Done correctly as described in the original post with roatating lifts after two plateus on a lift and roatating in two lifts before going back the original should provide 3-4 years of continues lifting and progression.
From there I believe a more intermediate program with weekly progressions and dual factor like madcow which allows an overreaching phase and an under training phase should be used for about 4 cycles.
From there the average Joe should prolly move to 531 or rpt.
If one wants to pursue bodybuilding something like rest pause training as described in greyskull powerbuilding and in mastadon then everntually to something like DC training or fortitude training should be the path. Could also use Meadows style high frequency or dual factor training for bodybuilders as a buffer between greyskull powerbuilding and the more advanced DC/fortitude training.
Of course greyskull has other books that can be run too after the lp or with the principles of the lp.
The original point of this thread was to introduce well planned and progressive training principles. It was for everyone to start thinking about training not just winging it.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:47 pm to Bailey25
quote:
Can we post questions here to you about nutrition? Specifically, would you recommend following the “Whole30” program if following GSLP? If you want to lower cholesterol #’s but not necessarily overweight and looking to lose weight, can you still get stronger and make gradual gains eating the whole30 way??
Perfectly fine to ask here. Absolutely you can make gains using whole 30. I would suggest keeping protein fairly high, around 250g if you aren't going to be using the potatoes.
What do you plan to run calorie wise and macro wise?
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:23 pm to lsu777
Honestly, I just need to get my act together and develop consistent habits and eat better. My wife is playing around with Keto and I’m 45 weekend warrior type. I’m 6’3 220 , not fat, not skinny, always looking to gain a bit of muscle but more concerned with health and strength . I will be setting myself up to fail if I commit to counting calories and following a specific diet 100% but I like a lot of the recipes and simplicity of eating plan in Whole 30 and it would make meal planning easier as it relates to my wife. So my goals are to do a loose recomp and just develop better habits. I won’t cut carbs hut will limit to post workout and more potatoes other times, sprouted grain bread etc...I’m gonna incorporate more protein, veggies, healthy dats via some of the Whole 30 recipes I found and experiment wirh dropping carbs from some dinners etc....
This post was edited on 9/9/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:48 pm to Bailey25
Yea I would cut potatoes to except pre and post workout.
Do this, count only protein. Making sure to get 250g or so. Keep you carbs to 3 pieces of fruit and green veggies on non training days. On training days replace the veggies and one of the pieces of fruit with potatoes and or sweet potatoes.
From there don't worry about too much, just keep it whole 30 compliant. You will do well on that. If you get hungry, eat more lean protein.
Do this, count only protein. Making sure to get 250g or so. Keep you carbs to 3 pieces of fruit and green veggies on non training days. On training days replace the veggies and one of the pieces of fruit with potatoes and or sweet potatoes.
From there don't worry about too much, just keep it whole 30 compliant. You will do well on that. If you get hungry, eat more lean protein.
Posted on 9/9/18 at 8:58 pm to lsu777
That’s more or less what I had in mind, again just getting in a pattern of consistently eating better, less bad carbs, sweet potatoes mostly on lifting days. I do like sprouted grain toast with eggs and fruit each morning as well so might allow myself that. Not sure if I should cut out organic 2% milk for my protein shakes but if I have to, will just use water or almond milk. On weekends , will not deprive myself of cravings though, sort of 90/10 rule of eating throughout the week. Thanks for the general recommendations , it’s pretty helpful and I’ll give it a go for sure..
Posted on 9/13/18 at 10:34 am to lsu777
What should the ratio be between our chinup max rep and pushup max rep numbers?
I know he says to shoot for 100 pushups, but what's the equivalent for chins?
Cheers
I know he says to shoot for 100 pushups, but what's the equivalent for chins?
Cheers
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:46 am to numptythrubbers
20 dead hang is the eventual goal or performing the weighted chin up challenge.
Posted on 9/13/18 at 11:49 am to lsu777
quote:
20 dead hang is the eventual goal
One day.
I replied to you in the PDFD thread btw
Posted on 9/16/18 at 8:36 pm to lsu777
I haven’t worked out in years and I’ve finally got my garage gym equipment set up. I have gained a lot of weight I’m up to 300 lbs do you think I should just follow the fat loss method or should I work on more cardio?
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:47 am to TowBROater
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fat loss method
pretty simple.
For diet:
LINK
Select leangains under diet tab
plug the percentages it gives you into the myfitnesspal.
run the three day fatloss method.
do the above for the first 4 weeks and don't adjust anything. If you are not losing, you can lower cals 100 at a time until you do. once you start losing you are in a deficiet, hold at that calorie level and follow below.
Start with just the weight lifting, no cardio. Measure waist at naval and weigh every two weeks. When weight loss stalls, add 20 min of fasted walking daily. as when weight loss stalls again, go to 30 min daily, then to 45 then to 60 at each successive stall.
After you reach 360 min a week of fasted walking and you stall again, lower cals 250.
next stall add 1 day of viking conditioning. next stall add a second day. next stall add a 3rd day.
next stall lower cals by 250.
next stall start adding the burpee challenge in daily in progressive manner
Continue to lower cals 250 at a time until you reach goal or until you get to 1500 cals. At 1500 cals, you need to reverse diet back out. Post here if you get to that and I will post how.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:15 pm to lsu777
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This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:00 pm to Nobelium
quote:
About what HR% should I aim for when doing fasted walking?
don't over think it. just walk and get the work in.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:07 am to lsu777
Today was W5D1. All my lifts are progressing nicely except the OHP. I’m already close to a greyskull reset on it. My last two OHP sessions resulted in me barely squeaking out 5 on the AMRAP and today it was a 4 couldn’t get to full extension on rep 5.
My squats are increasing like crazy. I’ve been doing double increases this whole time 10lbs each session and somehow I keep powering through the AMRAP with 8-10. I started really low on the weight progression but I’m still impressed.
My squats are increasing like crazy. I’ve been doing double increases this whole time 10lbs each session and somehow I keep powering through the AMRAP with 8-10. I started really low on the weight progression but I’m still impressed.
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:35 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
quote:
Today was W5D1. All my lifts are progressing nicely except the OHP. I’m already close to a greyskull reset on it. My last two OHP sessions resulted in me barely squeaking out 5 on the AMRAP and today it was a 4 couldn’t get to full extension on rep 5.
This is typical. The press is almost always the first lift to be reset.
quote:Thats awesome to hear.
My squats are increasing like crazy. I’ve been doing double increases this whole time 10lbs each session and somehow I keep powering through the AMRAP with 8-10. I started really low on the weight progression but I’m still impressed.
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