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Sprint Triathlon questions

Posted on 3/7/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 3/7/21 at 8:15 pm
I want to participate in a sprint Triathlon at the end of June. I have never done one before. It is 800 meter swim, 18 mile bike and 5k run.

I've never been much of a bicyclist. 35 years old. Not in my physical prime, but I am still in decent shape.

What type of training regiment should I steer towards? I'm not looking to finish high in this race, but I do want to complete it in a decent time and have fun.

Is a tri-suit, or tri pants and a top recommended? If so, any recommendations?

I have an older bike and am going to upgrade in the next couple of weeks. Nothing fancy, just a decent road cruiser in the 300-500 range
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/7/21 at 10:09 pm to
All I can say is that the biking portion takes the longest to complete of the 3 legs, thus I wouldn't skimp on a bike.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 3/7/21 at 10:21 pm to
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just a decent road cruiser in the 300-500 range




I wouldn't bother with anything in that price range unless you are buying a used bike of a quality model that is in good condition. Also, a clip on aero bar makes a big difference in speed as long as you have time to get a few rides in with it and do some basic body position set up, usually sliding your seat forward. An 800 meter swim is long for a sprint tri so make sure you put the pool time in.
Posted by JollyGreen
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/7/21 at 10:35 pm to
Recommend you do not go out and spend a ton for gear on your first. If you don’t like it, then you just blew a bunch of money. And it is an expensive sport. No tri suit needed. Recommend top and bottom. Get a good thick pad on bottoms. Good pair of running shoes. Any bike will do for first one. I have seen people ride mountain bikes on their first. 12 week training schedule. Train each discipline twice a week. Make sure you take a day off per week! Start at about 1000m swimming, 12 miles biking and 4 miles running per week. Peak at about 2000m swimming, 35 miles biking and 7-8 miles running per week. Most important is to have fun on the race.
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 3/7/21 at 11:01 pm to
Thanks for the advice. I am looking to complete it for fun and to say I've done it. If I enjoy it I'll gladly invest more time and money
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 6:20 am to
quote:

All I can say is that the biking portion takes the longest to complete of the 3 legs, thus I wouldn't skimp on a bike.


Time and difficulty are not the same though. And I guess difficulty is a bad way to describe it. The run is always the toughest. When I was doing sprints and olys, I was doing 10 to 13 mile long runs. A 5k at the end of a tri feels like a 10 mile run.

My suggestions are to get comfortable in the water, but also know where to place yourself in the swim. I was comfortable in the water, but my first tri was a wake up. I positioned myself in the middle and finished in the middle. But the idiots who start with a bang crawling on top of me only to have to pass the later will make the swim feel twice as long. I soon learned to start in the back to the outside. Passing on your terms is easier than getting passed in my opinion.

The bike is the longest, but easiest. The hard part is knowing to stay within your bounds. Unless you are truly competing, it shouldn't be at a level 10. 18 miles isn't chump change for a sprint, so keep it in mind. You should have a spring in your step when getting off the bike.

Running is running, but definitely practice running a mile or 2 after your bike rides in the weeks leading up to the race. Your legs will feel like sand bags, but you get used to it and it goes away after you get moving.

Tri shorts are a must in my opinion. You need the thin chamois to bike and still run. You can always swim with no top, then put on a cycling shirt, but it isn't fun when wet. I have a few kits somewhere if the OP wants to pay shipping, You can have them. Got out of tri about 2.5 years ago and couldn't fit them to save my life . I am 5'11" and weight about 165-170 at the time.
Posted by ks_nola
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:11 am to
biggest hurdle for first time tri is the swim unless you happen to be a regular swimmer prior. 800 meter is decent distance for 1st sprint so work on being confident especially if its open water. Pool is great for 2-3 swims a week but come race day and you are 100 meters from shore can be intimidating.

biking I see being the "easiest" leg but is most likely where you make or break a time goal simply because of the distance. but biking beyond your ability will make for a walking run.

once you are a few weeks into whatever training plan you decide on work in short brick workouts. bike 7-10 and run 1-2.

there is a pro saying "bike for show, run for dough". biking fast looks cool but being able to run fast after the bike wins you the money.

good luck and enjoy the process along the way.
Posted by Bigpoppat
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 11:14 am to
Lots of great advice. Thanks!
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 12:21 pm to
Where do you live? Any local trail clubs or local tri shops? When I lived in Florida I started doing tris with no swiming or bike experience. The local trail club and tri shop had weekend workouts for all different levels that made it easy for me. It's a great sport.

www.slowtwitch.com is a great forum for information as well.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 1:56 pm to
I’m doing a half Ironman in October. My friends and I are putting together an Olympic in June.

Can anyone recommend a good trisuit? We’ll be open water swimming in the Gulf so I won’t need a wetsuit for the Olympic in June. I also need recommendations for:

1) Goggles
2) Clip-on aero bars (which I won’t use for the Olympic but will need for the 70.3)
3) Swim cap
4) Wetsuit
Posted by Walter White
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 4:34 pm to
I got this one last year on sale and it’s been solid. I’ve done a couple of sprint tris in it as well as many brick sessions and like it a lot. More comfortable than I thought it would be, especially in the heat of the summer.

For the goggles, I just picked up a $15 Speedo pair at Academy. Same with the swim cap. Can’t help you with the clip on aero bars as my bike already has them. Maybe check FB marketplace? There is also a good FB group called Tri ‘N Sell It where people post lots of good items for sale. Good luck
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1648 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:45 pm to
Goggles-TYR special ops 2.0
Swim Cap- Never bought one, they were always given at the race. Any one will do.
Wetsuit- Xterra sleeveless is the best value. Go sleeveless unless you are truly going to get in some cold water. I get very hot in my sleeved suit and the restriction in your shoulders will get your arms slightly more tired. I may have a discount code for xterra if it still works that was like a 50% discount.
Posted by JollyGreen
Las Vegas
Member since Dec 2007
156 posts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:27 pm to
I use nothing but TYR spec ops 2.0 goggles. Have tried several others but those are the best for me. Don’t need swim cap. Different brands fit differently for everyone. I wear a kiwami tri suit, TYR full wetsuit and Roka skin suit for warmer water. I wear those because they make a XXL size for me in those particular suits (6’4”, 215). I agree with the comment of don’t wear a full suit in warmer water. The extra float will not out weigh the internal heat. Make sure you have a solid hydration plan for the week leading up to half. Also have a solid pre race food plan and during race nutrition plan.

Forgot to mention...work in brick workouts during training.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/10/21 at 8:54 am to
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Xterra sleeveless is the best value


This is the link for last year's model. I'm not sure what they have left for sizes but you will not beat this value. Keep this link for November when most sizes and models are available.
Xterra Outlet


Here's their regular site.
Xterra Wetsuits
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 9:25 am
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1648 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:04 am to
Yeah, that is the best price I've ever seen on a wetsuit if they have your size.

I have a code to get the Volt suit for $100 at any time. Don't want to just leave it up as it is something I have from a previous coach, but would definitely share for a short period if anyone needs it. I think I was able to get the swim skin for sub 100 as well with that code.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:11 am to
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Can anyone recommend a good trisuit?

I personally can't wear a one piece suit. I'm not sure there is one brand better than others. There is just different fits. Lately I wear 2XU compression bottoms with a Desoto Cool skin top for 70.3 and up and the 2XU compression top for off-road tris. So each his own. I've typically worn those two brands tops & bottoms for the last 10+ years. If it works, don't fix it.

It's about finding the right fit and the level of fabric you want. They make entry level, sprint distance, long distance suits. Wattie Ink, Zoot, Orca, Garneau, 2XU, Desoto, all make great tri clothing.

1) Goggles - Find something that's comfortable. I like Roka F1. just simple along with TYR cheapies.


2) Clip-on aero bars (which I won’t use for the Olympic but will need for the 70.3)

Go to your local bike shop and talk with them. I would go ahead and use them for the Olympic unless it's super hilly.

3) Swim cap - They will give you one at the race.

4) Wetsuit - Xterra is best value because it's direct to consumer. Again, it all comes down to fit and comfort and level of wetsuits. Minor differences with most of them in comparable levels for the most part. And nothing that's going to keep you from going faster if you're not already fast.
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1648 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:28 am to
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I personally can't wear a one piece suit. I'm not sure there is one brand better than others. There is just different fits.


And to add to the general theme of what Cdawg said...I love a one piece suit and hated separates. Only time I ever wore a top and bottom was when I did an ironman in case I had to shite as it sucks getting a one piece back on when sweaty. But everyone is different. I also really like having sleeves. I had (sadly I put on 35 lbs since then) a very thin frame and really like Castelli gear. But if you have any sort of thickness on you, you basically have to wear an XXL in their gear. You really just have to try out several things and give yourself enough time to make returns if it doesn't fit.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 11:50 am to
Appreciate all the help, y’all.

I’ll probably buy a two-piece Zoot tri-suit first and see how that goes. They have some decent prices.

Some friends of mine and I are doing an Olympic around our town in June. I don’t need clip-on aero bars or a wetsuit for that (open water swimming in the Gulf). Does anyone have any recommendations for clip-on aero bars?
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 11:52 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26510 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 11:54 am to
quote:


2) Clip-on aero bars (which I won’t use for the Olympic but will need for the 70.3)

Go to your local bike shop and talk with them. I would go ahead and use them for the Olympic unless it's super hilly


Posted by PrettyBird
Aspen
Member since Feb 2010
10358 posts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
I haven't seen anyone mention it, but I think doing bricks during training is pretty important. (combining two different legs of the workout, so after your bike go for a run).

It is pretty shocking the first time after biking 15+ miles to hop off your bike and break into a 2-3 mile run. It is different muscle groups and to me, important for your body to know what that feels like to go from one exercise to the next. In training for my Ironman I did many bricks of swim+bike and bike+run, and it helped me not only physically for race day, but mentally.
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