re: Scientific discussion on supplements

Well thats because supplements aren’t regulated. They don’t have to go through clinical trials. Its an interesting study, but they are going to need to do more research on it before it takes the place of diabetic meds to which it was being compared

ETA: As far as supplement use, seems like a waste of money. But most are except for creatine

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ETA: As far as supplement use, seems like a waste of money. But most are except for creatine

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In what way? As a performance enhancer? Possibly, more research is needed but it has shown a ton of promise as a nutrition partitioner and been used by many with good results in the form of glucose disposal agents specifically yellow gold from Anabolic minds and pslin from usplabs.

As far loss agent, not really as it shown that ability in all of the studies quite effeciently.

As a health and anti aging supplement...not at all. Examine.com gives it 3 arrows(their highest rating) for strong scientific backing to lowering blood glucose, A1C and 2 arrows for notable scientific backing on total cholesterol reduction.

Do we need more studies in its ability to activate glut4 and cause nutrition partitioning? Absolutely, but is what I would consider proven as a health supplement.

Is it proven like metformin? Hell no and won't ever receive the kind of funding to do those kind of studies unless a drug company can convince the FDA to pull it as a supplement like they did the fish oil ethyl ester.

I wonder how many people interested in this thread are STEM majors? Lol

Didn't go to a university but I'm in IT

Haha prolly most.

You convinced me to try berberine. Let's see how this goes.

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Ease into it. Let us know what you think

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I have IBS and a side is upset stomach. I'll start low end at least until I get a good handle on whether it triggers the IBS.

I'll try to post a review when I get a sense of how it's going.

Check out phosphatidic acid. There is a 8 week study on ncbi on 16 resistant trained individuals. The results are a likely benefit on strength improvement, and a very likely benefit on lean tissue accruement in young, resistance trained individuals.

I've personally taken phosphatidic acid and I definitely notice an increase in strength while using it.

I rarely see anyone mention this supplement. If anyone is interested in the exact supplement I take let me know.

This is a good summary of alcar:

LINK

Depends on what you're looking for and how high your standards are.

Haha yea it will die anything, not called yellow gold for no reason. How do you plan to take it? It's insanely bitter, just a heads up.

Where did you get from?