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re: Rapid fatloss diet support thread

Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:24 pm to
So one thing I have alluded to but haven't posted about much.....is once you get to a true category 1, at max only one or two rounds should be run of this diet. It gets too difficult and you start running into metabolic problems where you are eating very small amounts of calories but still not losing weight due to the body adjusting the metabolic rate.

Once a category 1 is reached and you have run one round or max two and no longer are losing at all, you need a diet break or at the very least you need to reverse diet out of this and ramp the calories up over a 8-10 week period adding 100-200 calories weekly. Avatar will make this easy for those that don't know how to adjust macros and understand these diet concepts well.

From there I would suggest looking into something like leangains, continuing to use avatar or the get shredded diet by John bernardi. Lyle also has a diet called ultimate diet 2.0 that works well but is overly complicated.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 7:41 pm to
Good post.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:20 am to
1 full week in 11 pounds down on the scale, regardless of the fat loss percentage of that, still great to see.

Did sabotage myself yesterday though, gave in for my cheat meal and had 2 pieces of pizza. Saw a pound above where I was yesterday with that and the salad choice for lunch.

This has been easy to keep going though with a bit of focus and making good choices.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:05 am to
First day of recomp.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16866 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 5:59 pm to
Day one, I didn't eat enough for lunch. Only 1 piece of chicken and a salad with small about of balsamic. Had one scoop of Humapro during evening break time.

Just finished eating an egg white omelet with bell peppers, onions, and fat free cheese.

Going to eat some fish and brussel sprouts once the family gets home.

Once I get into the routine, it shouldn't be too bad. Just have to make sure I portion my meals properly.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:23 pm to
Sounds like you need more protein.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43010 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:05 am to
Biggggggg woooosh this morning. Dropped 3lbs over night. I'm about two weeks in so I'm sure it's water/fat combined but it does help keep you on track lol
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:38 am to
That's awesome!
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
908 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:51 am to
Going for round two next week.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:00 am to
How are y'all doing?

Just know when you do the recomp, you won't gain much back if you up your workouts. I'm at 196 again even though I've upped my carbs to about 220g a day and 60g fat and 200g protein.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 8:02 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43010 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:23 am to
quote:

How are y'all doing?

Just know when you do the recomp, you won't gain much back if you up your workouts. I'm at 196 again even though I've upped my carbs to about 220g a day and 60g fat and 200g protein


I started RFL exactly 12 days ago. After rest day yesterday im sitting at 10 lbs loss.

180g protein / 55g carb

3 days on 1 day off rotation

Low calorie. We are talking like 1300 calories here on the 3 days on and I double the carbs on 1 day off but no more than 2k calories. I also eat breakfast at 7am, Lunch at 11am , dinner not until 6pm so when I workout at 4:30 I am in a slightly fasted state. I think go almost 12 hours without eating until next morning. I drink about 1.5 gallons of water a day.

I don't have any mood swings, workouts absolutely suck but I get through them. I don't feel like I am getting burnt out yet. I think the day off helps a lot.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:53 am to
10 lbs in 12 days is damn good especially with having the amount of carbs you are. You prolly won't have any real rebound.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43010 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

10 lbs in 12 days is damn good especially with having the amount of carbs you are. You prolly won't have any real rebound.


Well to be fair I am roughly 230 currently. I am trying to get under 200 (180 is the goal) for the first time in about 5 years.

I made a commitment to myself to not allow my 30's to go to waste and to eat/have a better lifestyle.

So for most of you guys who are jacked and chiseled like fricking hercules, probably won't ever see that kinda loss that quick lol.

Edit: I also cant emphasize at least for me the 3 on 1 off rotation has made this completely doable.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:07 pm to
Signed up for Avatar
Current Goal
Rapid Fat Loss

Target Macros

Calories: 1428

Protein: 168g

Fat: 48g

Carbs: 81g
------------------------------------------

Rapid Fat Loss calculator

Using MFP to Track

Your Daily Goal 650kCal 16g Carbs 7g Fat 130g Protein

Body Composition

Your Weight:


210 lbs

Your BMI:


Your Bodyfat %:


32%

Your LBM:


143 lbs

Your Fat Mass:


67 lbs
Diet Suitability

Diet Category: 3
PSMF Diet Recommendations

Protein Per Day: 114.4 g

Protein Per Meal: 28.6 g
Frequency and Duration of Free Meals, Refeeds and Full Diet Breaks

As a category 3 dieter, you should have a full diet break every 6-12 weeks. You are allowed 2 free meals per week. You are not allowed any refeeds.

Protein Suggestions for 28.6 g of protein/meal

Cheese: 4.1 oz

Beef: 3.6 oz

Chicken: 3.6 oz

Fish: 4.1 oz

Egg Whites: 8.2 Egg Whites

Fat Free Cheese: 3.6 oz
Other Dietary Recommendations

Essential Fatty Acids
10g per day of fish oil capsules or liquid fish oils.

Water 1 - 2 litres of cold water/day

Vegetables Unlimited amount of vegetables except starchy vegetables such as peas, carrots and corn.

Limitless Food Choices


Lemon Juice

All spices

Vinegar

Mustard

Soy Sauce

Salsa

Diet Free Soda

Coffee (no cream or sugar)

Crystal Light or other sugar free drinks

Teas (no sugar)

Broth/Bouillon

Supplements


1 Multivitamin/day

3 - 5g of Sodium/day

1g of Potassium/day

500mg Magnesium/day

600-1200mg Calcium/day

I don't really understand how to balance the two as the Avatar says I should be eating way more calories, carbs and fats. I've been doing the rapid fat loss since Monday and have lost 3#

Need some help please.

Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22541 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:13 pm to
You signed up for Avatar but are going to do RFL? Those don't really go hand in hand.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 1:25 pm to
yea not really understanding.
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:17 pm to
That's why I'm asking........Way I was reading they went hand in hand as far as macros go, obviously not???

The RFL I'm not finding difficult to stick to, just don't know how to work with the fats and carbs? Protein is easy to follow as it spells out the grams needed daily


I go way over the 16g of carbs on RFL just eating broccoli, brussels sprouts and asparagus. Is 650 calories realistic goal?




This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:40 pm to
NO Rapid Fatloss is specifically a protein sparing madified fast. Essentially you are only allow lean protein and non starchy green veggies. It is essentially a scientific approach to crash dieting and its the linked calculator in the first post. BTW don't worry about going over the carb limit with those veggies. Just keep it green non strachy. As far as the 650 calories...I would so prolly not but what did the calculator say?


Avatar nutrition is a felxible dieting approach that simply says eat enough protein to make sure you hold onto muscle, make sure you get enough fiber to make sure you are eating green veggies and your micronutrition is on point. From there eat what you want. Avatar will ask you to input your data and perform a weekly weigh in. From that info it will run its logarithum and give you your macros. You can adjust these somewhat based on preferences. Like you can set protein to high and use the slider for more fat or carbs depending on what you prefer. Can also set high days and low days. Essentially it takes the guessing game out of setting your own macros whether bulking, maintaining or cutting. Great service but nothing to do with the rapid fatloss diet. But a great service to transition too once you have run the rapid fatloss diet enough to get to your goals.
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

As far as the 650 calories...I would so prolly not but what did the calculator say?



All it gave me was 114.4g of protien per day on the FRL calculator

No guideline for total calories, fats or carbs. WHich I think is where my confusion was coming in.....I can learn Avatar while I do RFL and then transition......Now I understand that Thanks so much
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 3:06 pm to
yea so should be

Protein-115g
Carbs-20-40g of non starchy green veggies
Fats-20-30g

so max of 890 or so cals.
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