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OTC Testosterone Supplement/Booster
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/4/24 at 9:44 am
60 YO male. Had to take Androgen Deprivation Therapy (Elegard) for cancer treatment. Dropped T down to 0.0. (The hot flashes and lack of energy were not enjoyable side effects BTW).
Have been off the ADT for about 6 mos and Test is slowly coming back on its own. Last test was 210 ng/dL. Oncologist has OK'd me seeing my urologist to discuss Testosterone therapy but I won't be able to get in to see him for over a month.
Notwithstanding Frank Thomas and Doug Flutie's advice at the driving range, my question is whether there are any legitimate over the counter supplements or boosters that actually work and make a meaningful impact on T values? I feel much better and I can certainly wait to see my doctor ... but I am curious if there is anything that I can do on my own to try to elevate T levels?
Have been off the ADT for about 6 mos and Test is slowly coming back on its own. Last test was 210 ng/dL. Oncologist has OK'd me seeing my urologist to discuss Testosterone therapy but I won't be able to get in to see him for over a month.
Notwithstanding Frank Thomas and Doug Flutie's advice at the driving range, my question is whether there are any legitimate over the counter supplements or boosters that actually work and make a meaningful impact on T values? I feel much better and I can certainly wait to see my doctor ... but I am curious if there is anything that I can do on my own to try to elevate T levels?
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:21 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
There are some supplements that will get you from 210 to maybe the 270s but that's not gonna make much of a difference.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 10:47 am to rooster108bm
Thank you! That is sort of what I figured and it seems logical but I am not very knowledgeable on the subject...
Posted on 11/4/24 at 11:16 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
Red meat and exercise.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 11:26 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
There’s a good thread on Boron.
Boron has lots of good health benefits. And it has been shown to raise free testosterone, which is the one you want to raise.
Boron has lots of good health benefits. And it has been shown to raise free testosterone, which is the one you want to raise.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 1:37 pm to BabysArmHoldingApple
what has your oncologist said about the subject? In your case i would go meet with a urologist atleast before just taking something just to be safe.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:25 pm to lsu777
They are in the same practice group. Oncologist feels comfortable trying to bring up T numbers for "quality of life" reasons. I guess I am just being a bit impatient. Anyway, thank you for your response...I can tell from your posts in the other threads that you are knowledgeable about the subject.
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:47 pm to BabysArmHoldingApple
yea normally i dont mind giving advice but in your situation 100% listen to the docs
now Jose is a doc and he is right about boron. only other supplement i would look at is sustain alpha.
have they talked to you about low dose TRT?
now Jose is a doc and he is right about boron. only other supplement i would look at is sustain alpha.
have they talked to you about low dose TRT?
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:22 pm to lsu777
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low dose TRT
I believe that this is what I will be talking to my urologist about.
Will look into boron and sustain alpha.
Like I said, I am probably just being impatient....
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:05 pm to BabysArmHoldingApple
quote:
Notwithstanding Frank Thomas and Doug Flutie's advice at the driving range, my question is whether there are any legitimate over the counter supplements or boosters that actually work and make a meaningful impact on T values?
No
ETA: and your username
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:53 am to jose
I'll second Boron. My free T has increased taking it.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:17 am to RocketTiger
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I'll second Boron.
Thanks...what dosage are you taking?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:22 am to BabysArmHoldingApple
I am at 15mg every morning.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:49 am to jose
I take 9 mg every morning.
From my reading, the minimally effective dose was around 3-6 mg.
Edited to change 6 mg to 3-6 mg. Also read on Epoch Times today that too much boron can make vit D hydrox-25 levels run high on blood tests. My recent labs showed high vit D, so I reduced my vit D/K2 supplement to once per week instead of daily. Didn’t know my daily 9 mg of boron (WELL below the toxic dose of over 10,000 mg) might be contributing to that.
From my reading, the minimally effective dose was around 3-6 mg.
Edited to change 6 mg to 3-6 mg. Also read on Epoch Times today that too much boron can make vit D hydrox-25 levels run high on blood tests. My recent labs showed high vit D, so I reduced my vit D/K2 supplement to once per week instead of daily. Didn’t know my daily 9 mg of boron (WELL below the toxic dose of over 10,000 mg) might be contributing to that.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:56 pm to jose
quote:
There’s a good thread on Boron.
Boron has lots of good health benefits. And it has been shown to raise free testosterone, which is the one you want to raise.
everytime i read about this i hear people say it messed with their sleep and gave them insomnia. Have you ever had that?
My free is low and Im curious
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:33 pm to dallastiger55
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everytime i read about this i hear people say it messed with their sleep and gave them insomnia. Have you ever had that?
I have never had issues with that since I have been on it.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:40 pm to dallastiger55
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everytime i read about this i hear people say it messed with their sleep and gave them insomnia. Have you ever had that?
Take it first thing in morning. You won’t have any issues.
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