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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:54 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 3/2/25 at 6:54 pm to goldennugget
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Today was my 2nd run with Alphafly 3s and they just aren't for me. Just don't think they work well with my stride and foot strike pattern. As soon as I was able to today I ordered a pair of Metaspeed Sky Paris's which I will wear for the rest of my races this year and relegate the Alphaflys to tempo workouts.
So it turns out the Alphafly 3s I wore in my marathon last Sunday were COUNTERFEIT.
Unbelievable.
No wonder they never felt right the 2 times I wore them. They were extremely stiff and non propulsive and felt more like a pair of Hoka Bondis. I just figured they didn't mesh well with my running form. Weighed them and they were 9.2oz which is 2oz more than a real pair.
I bought them from an overseas seller since they don't sell the Blueprint colorway in the US. I should have known better.
Not really pissed about the fact I threw $300 down the drain. Pissed that my lone stand alone marathon of the year, in perfect weather, was wasted wearing a pair of bricks. Actually impressed I ran a 3:03 in those pieces of shite. Good training stimulus I guess.
Buy your super shoes directly from the source, people.
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:10 pm to goldennugget
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So it turns out the Alphafly 3s I wore in my marathon last Sunday were COUNTERFEIT.
No fricking way
I'd be furious. I'm mad FOR YOU
You might as well cut them in half now and see if Pajeet put a piece of wood in there instead of carbon fiber
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:21 pm to goldennugget
Bruh. At least buy on eBay. If you went through Alixpress you’re begging to get scammed. Impressive time in fake shoes though
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:38 pm to jordan21210
That's wild.
Pedro, I feel you, I fight the same fight with my just turned 13 year daughter about the warm up. She's too stubborn and never warms up properly.
So I did 11.5 (longest run since I did a half almost 20 years ago) this morning at 8:26 pace 128 heart rate and felt good enough to go play a flag football game later with mild leg fatigue right now. I'm this close to signing up for a marathon in April. Somebody talk me in or out of it. It's pretty much now or never for me. Looking at the Horse Capital Marathon in Lexington on April 12.
Pedro, I feel you, I fight the same fight with my just turned 13 year daughter about the warm up. She's too stubborn and never warms up properly.
So I did 11.5 (longest run since I did a half almost 20 years ago) this morning at 8:26 pace 128 heart rate and felt good enough to go play a flag football game later with mild leg fatigue right now. I'm this close to signing up for a marathon in April. Somebody talk me in or out of it. It's pretty much now or never for me. Looking at the Horse Capital Marathon in Lexington on April 12.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:16 pm to RandySavage
Damn, that’s great pace and HR. If you have the time to dedicate to marathon training, why not go full send? Not getting any younger.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:25 pm to RandySavage
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April. Somebody talk me in or out of it. It's pretty much now or never for me. Looking at the Horse Capital Marathon in Lexington on April 12.
How old are you? I just turned 49 and ran my first 5k last summer and was gonna run a half and decided to run a full and ran a full at 4.5ish.
Never really was a runner and still don’t really consider myself one but ran 3 miles today and shooting to run a 50k in June.
It’s never too late baw.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:36 pm to jordan21210
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Bruh. At least buy on eBay. If you went through Alixpress you’re begging to get scammed. Impressive time in fake shoes though
I did buy on eBay. Seller had 99% positive reviews, and though was overseas I figured that's because the colorway was only available in Europe. And at $275 I figured they were real and fakes would be like $80
My buddy who got 3rd overall in the race figured something was up because he felt with my fitness gains over the last year and perfect weather no way should I have been 4 minutes slower vs. a year ago. Texted me this afternoon suggesting I weigh my shoes because they might be fake. 9.2 ounces. Then googled how to spot fake Alphaflys for further confirmation
Gonna try to get a refund but since it's overseas not sure if eBay will side with me
Posted on 3/2/25 at 8:37 pm to Ingeniero
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You might as well cut them in half now and see if Pajeet put a piece of wood in there instead of carbon fiber
Trying to figure out what to do with them. I was thinking of blowing them up with fireworks
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:15 pm to jordan21210
I have time to train to finish somewhat respectable, not to put in the training to crush like a 3:15 or anything like that. It would purely be just to finish and 6 my only time goal would be to go under 4. I'm 42 btw
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:24 pm to goldennugget
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I did buy on eBay. Seller had 99% positive reviews, and though was overseas I figured that's because the colorway was only available in Europe. And at $275 I figured they were real and fakes would be like $80
Agh, that’s brutal. Guess they didn’t have the authenticity guaranty on them?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:49 pm to RandySavage
quote:yea they’re stubborn as heck at that age
Pedro, I feel you, I fight the same fight with my just turned 13 year daughter about the warm up. She's too stubborn and never warms up properly.
I took her through a proper warm up and everything for the run we did on thanksgiving. Yesterday I go to start and she stays back. My sister tells her to come and she’s just like “eh I don’t like how he warms up” little turd
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:14 am to RandySavage
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I'm this close to signing up for a marathon in April. Somebody talk me in or out of it. It's pretty much now or never for me. Looking at the Horse Capital Marathon in Lexington on April 12.
I'll attempt to talk you out of it - April 12th is too soon
Your Fitness is there, but your endurance is not, yes the 11.5 mile run felt good, but remember, you still have 15 more to go after that 11.5 during a marathon. Even if you go out and run a half marathon, a full marathon is like 3 half marathons (and I mean this, I always joke as a pacer that the Marathon doesn't actually start until mile 20... I say it's a joke, but at mile 20 I'm almost never with the same people I started with because they have all bonked and have fallen behind).
You really need to build your endurance by increasing your weekly mileage as much as possible. I know plenty of people who have gotten a PR in their 50s, you have time, don't rush Marathon training.
ETA: I would recommend a Fall Marathon and going to the VDOT website and paying for a Training Plan. If you don't want to pay for a training plan search "Runners World Marathon **your goal, so 3:45** Training Plan" and follow that until whatever your Fall Marathon is
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:22 am to BaddestAndvari
+1
When I did a 14 miler in my HM block I told myself that a marathon was out of the question. I can't imagine getting through that and having 12 more miles to go
Like Baddest said, the halfway point of a marathon is mile 20
When I did a 14 miler in my HM block I told myself that a marathon was out of the question. I can't imagine getting through that and having 12 more miles to go
Like Baddest said, the halfway point of a marathon is mile 20
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:41 am to Ingeniero
I'm not arguing at all but when i looked at the higdon plan my 5k training mileage had me at pretty much the halfway point of the plan with really the only difference being to increase my long run distance. I was running 6 days a week, this program is 4.
The date is was looking at was only a week short of where i could pick up this plan and I'd just taper like ten days instead of two weeks instead of two weeks to squeeze in an extra long run. Again my goal is really just to finish. How far would i need to run comfortably before feeling confident i would be ready?
The date is was looking at was only a week short of where i could pick up this plan and I'd just taper like ten days instead of two weeks instead of two weeks to squeeze in an extra long run. Again my goal is really just to finish. How far would i need to run comfortably before feeling confident i would be ready?
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 3/3/25 at 12:34 pm to RandySavage
bruh you ain't no rec runner. crushing sub 20 5k, running 6 days a week , and 11.5 this morning at 8:26 pace 128 heart rate and felt good enough to go play a flag football game later..
at this point in life were just old dudes staying active. sign up and give a go. worse case you have to report back here and say you didn't finish or go sub 4 on first attempt. Time to FAFO!
at this point in life were just old dudes staying active. sign up and give a go. worse case you have to report back here and say you didn't finish or go sub 4 on first attempt. Time to FAFO!
Posted on 3/3/25 at 12:40 pm to RandySavage
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The date is was looking at was only a week short of where i could pick up this plan and I'd just taper like ten days instead of two weeks instead of two weeks to squeeze in an extra long run. Again my goal is really just to finish. How far would i need to run comfortably before feeling confident i would be ready?
Yes, but finishing is a bigger thing than you can even fathom, Marathons are just a different beast. For a sub-4 hour marathon it would be good for you to be running at least 18M on your long run this week with at least 40 miles for the whole week at this point...
This is following a very simple plan I used for my first sub-4 (a slightly modified pfitz plan)
ETA: ks is right though, you are have an insane fitness base already, you could easily go out there and crush it, doing a full training plan just mitigates the "what ifs" - at worst you go out and crash and tell us how bad you crashed, not the end of the world.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/3/25 at 1:04 pm to BaddestAndvari
Alright I'll up my planned long run this week to 16 and actually fuel appropriately etc if i still feel good at the end I'm going for it
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:11 pm to RandySavage
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Alright I'll up my planned long run this week to 16 and actually fuel appropriately etc if i still feel good at the end I'm going for it
There are some real runners on here I’m not one of them! I ran my first marathon back in January and was about spot on with what BA said, my long run was 19 and my weekly was about ~40m before my taper. I didn’t crush it but i finished strong as in pretty much held my pace 10min for the entire race with no walking.
Suffered a lil bit of IT band issue post race but non during training or during race. Those long runs taught me several things as a newbi and I’ll list them just because i learned some from here.
1 don’t start fast even though it feels good my pace at 25m was the same at 4 but i learned that from trying to push fast on one of my long runs.
2 practice fueling and duplicate it on race day don’t deviate if it works, I swapped to tailwind based on a suggestion from a friend and stuck with it even though I had to mix drinks during the race( cost me~2min is what my watch showed)
3 dial in your clothes and address any issues and don’t deviate, I never needed to tape nips till I got to my longer runs and didn’t realize that my hokas would give me pinky blisters till those long runs.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:20 pm to RandySavage
I’ll say this and may catch some grief since I’m one of the more “serious” ones on here. Your plan may not be what I would recommend but if you can get through 16/18 this week and feel good about I think you’re fine to give it a go. I would stress big time to have a plan, stick to it, and give yourself a lot of grace. I would start out running on pace for 4 flat-4:05 and feel it out through the half then go from there.
When I ran my first marathon my longest training run was 18 and didn’t get anything else over 14 I think. I had been training for a half and last second lucked into getting a grandmas bib at a price I couldn’t pass up. Ran way under my goal of 3 hours going in because I kept the first half easy and didn’t do anything dumb. Also found I enjoyed it more because I had zero expectations. Yes I had my “goal” but if I didn’t hit it I also understood it was my first full and I had little preparation for it.
If you go for it keep a good mindset going in and you *should* be okay. Also keep in mind the marathon is a completely different beast so all this I’m telling you could be thrown out the window in a heart beat. If you have absolutely any reservations at all I would hold off.
When I ran my first marathon my longest training run was 18 and didn’t get anything else over 14 I think. I had been training for a half and last second lucked into getting a grandmas bib at a price I couldn’t pass up. Ran way under my goal of 3 hours going in because I kept the first half easy and didn’t do anything dumb. Also found I enjoyed it more because I had zero expectations. Yes I had my “goal” but if I didn’t hit it I also understood it was my first full and I had little preparation for it.
If you go for it keep a good mindset going in and you *should* be okay. Also keep in mind the marathon is a completely different beast so all this I’m telling you could be thrown out the window in a heart beat. If you have absolutely any reservations at all I would hold off.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:50 pm to Pedro
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Also found I enjoyed it more because I had zero expectations. Yes I had my “goal” but if I didn’t hit it I also understood it was my first full and I had little preparation for it.
This board doesn’t run for fun I've found.......
Races are the pay off from a lot of hard work They are supposed to be fun. I try and have a good time when I race.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 6:12 pm
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