re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

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I ran 10 miles today for a long run. I kept my pace consistent the whole time but my heart rate crept up a few beats per mile from a HR of 135 on the first mile to 150 for the last mile.

I have a max heart rate of 196, so I am wondering if this is too high for a long run.

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No. It is typical for your HR to drift upward after a few miles, especially in hot and humid conditions and 150 is still zone 2 for you. Besides, it's actually good to run a portion of some of your long runs in zones 3-4.

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Pat's a man of the people, Brah!

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That's right, man. I like helping people out who ask for it. I spent several years reading books, websites, magazines, and scientific journal articles trying to sort out the good info from the bad and figuring out what works for the average runner. If I can make use of all that time I spent sorting through all of that information by helping other runners out, it makes it all a little more worthwhile.

My advice may not help freaks like Burt, but it will probably help the other 99%.

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My advice may not help freaks like Burt, but it will probably help the other 99%.

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No doubt! I'm thankful for it for sure.

Better get that OTQ 2024

I think you can increase or decrease the total mileages for most plans as long as you maintain the types of workouts, frequency of runs, and the balance and spacing between intensity and recovery. All good training plans are going to have the same basic elements and progress you from general training to specific training. If you simply add a mile or two to a few runs a week, it won't change any of that. The only thing that will change is your total volume. As long as you know that you stay healthy at those volumes and build gradually, the increase will only benefit you. Once you reach the middle of your plan, you can begin reducing the total volume some as your speed and tempo work will increase during the sharpening portion of your plan.

Thanks Patrick,

The only thing I can hang my hat on as newer / not very strong runner is never missing a planned workout or shorting weekly mileage. I figure consistency will pay dividends in 5+ years.

I'm just scared the total miles would be too low ..in reality , 35- 50 extra miles might help me more mentally than physically.

I stuck with my base load instead of lowering down with my NYC plan. Typically if it said 3 mi, I ran 5. If the early long run called for anything less than 10, I did 10.

Once I hit week 10 or 11, I stuck to the plan pretty closely. If anything I cut back a mile or so if my legs felt tired.

Looking back at my plan, my biggest week was 40 mi. I think I tweeted him during my early training asking something similar and he said if you have already built a good base, you can start his plan halfway through (week 9) and use it as a fitness test. If you can get through that week and your Half is at MP and you feel good, start from there.

Kballa,

Thanks for that, I took a screenshot because I'm planning a turn around like yours , just not as quick, hoping to run The Woodlands in 2021.

Patrick,

Other than fat and slow , I'm feeling great and ready to fight.

The fatness & slowness will be worked away haha.

Thanks man.

My peak for my first was less than 50.

Not ideal but it worked out ok.