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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:30 am to
Posted by lsutigers504
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:30 am to
David Goggins made Jesse Itzler (Atlanta Hawks owner) do this in freezing weather when Goggins stayed at Itzler’s house for a month. Itzler tells some good Goggins stories on the Joe Rogan podcast. Worth a listen
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:05 am to
I must have pulled my left calf a couple of runs ago. It wasn’t great on my last run this week and I couldn’t even start running this morning. Gonna have to rest it and try to restart training in a week or whenever the soreness is gone. Sucks.

Pulling out the mats and dumbbells for a week of cross training. Maybe this will be motivation to get the bike out this weekend.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 7:06 am
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
14007 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:35 am to
Nice cool 50s weather in central louisiana this morning. Best I've felt on a run in a month probably. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:16 am to
It was 60 here. Perfect for running. Or for the 100 yards of limping I did.
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
Member since Sep 2009
419 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:20 am to
Zone 1? Only way for me to stay in zone 1 is to walk....
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:24 am to
Not sure if the heart zones on Garmin connect are the same or whatever but I live in zone 4 on there. I don't feel bad on my runs though so I don't let it get my spirits down or anything.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Not sure if the heart zones on Garmin connect are the same or whatever but I live in zone 4 on there. I don't feel bad on my runs though so I don't let it get my spirits down or anything.


Me too man. I’m around 163-170 bpm regardless of weather, distance, humidity, etc.

Not sure if that’s bad or good
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Zone 1? Only way for me to stay in zone 1 is to walk....


I use a different set of HR zones than the typical 5 most people use. Like you said zone 1 is basically a brisk walk, so it is useless for me. I break my zones down into 6. Depending on fitness level, zone 1-2 is around 120-135, 2-3 is 136 to 152, 3-4 is 153-160, 4-5 is 161-169, zone 5 is 170-178, and zone 6 is 179+. This just works better for me in terms of knowing whether I am optimizing my planned workouts.

I aim to keep my recovery runs in zones 1-2 and my easy runs in zone 2.

I pretty much avoid zone 3. It has little use. It's too intense for optimal aerobic development and too easy for lactate threshold development.

My lactate threshold is usually in the upper part of zone 4, so my tempo runs are somewhere in that zone depending on where I am in my training cycle and what I am specifically trying trying to accomplish with a workout. I might use the bottom of zone 4 in a progression run or if I am training at a specific goal race pace longer than a 10K. LT workouts are generally going to be in the mid to upper part of that zone.

Zone 5 is what I am targeting for most speed work and shorter hill repeats. It might also be where I am at during a 5K or 10K race.

Zone 6 is basically shorter speed intervals or 1K-3K race distances. I usually top out around 190 when I am fit. Supposedly, my max HR will start to decrease with age, but I'm 44 and it still appears to be about the same as it was when I started running 6 years ago.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Not sure if the heart zones on Garmin connect are the same


The default for most devices is derived using a formula based on your age. It is not very accurate. For the most accurate zones, you need to know you current max heart rate. Your resting heat rate can also be helpful. Of course, this all is pointless if you don't use HR zones for training. I personally find them helpful, especially for certain workouts, but there are folks who don't use HR at all.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4467 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:13 pm to
I decided to partake in a wellness program at work. Basically we log our daily step totals and then report back at the end of the week. I thought I'd have a pretty good shot at being on the leaderboard with the weekly miles I log. Last week I totaled 82k steps on my FitBit (which I'm pretty sure overestimates anyways) while running 25 miles.

Email come out today with the leaderboard. The leader took 173,268 steps from April 1st to the 7th, 2nd was 165,714, 3rd was 135,594, 4th was 114,143. I had to look up my weekly step total history and found that at my marathon training peak I hit 175k (once) which went for 94 miles. Even finding a historical week with 114k steps I logged 56 miles.

Should I suspect Tom Foolery here or just resign to the fact that I'm nowhere near winning this challenge?
Posted by Rsande63
Spring,TX
Member since Jan 2016
579 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:29 pm to
A race series in Houston is confident they will conduct an in-person 10K on June 6th so I signed up.

This allows me to put my weekly running into a "plan" with my current PR being 51:32 (October, close to peak fitness) I'll train for something stronger and see where the chips fall.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:33 pm to
Went on a ruck march today

4 miles with 35lbs in 57 mins so just over 14 mins a mile

Avg heart rate was only 111, so I know if I was putting out I could have crushed that time

The zone training on runs is definitely working bc before doing that in less than an hour my heart rate would way higher
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:17 pm to
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Should I suspect Tom Foolery here


Definitely. I know for a fact that people lie on my work wellness program. I've seen them enter like 1000 minutes of exercise all at once in order to meet the goal of 1000 minutes over the course of a month before. Like, it was ridiculously obvious.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Went on a ruck march today

4 miles with 35lbs in 57 mins so just over 14 mins a mile

Avg heart rate was only 111, so I know if I was putting out I could have crushed that time

The zone training on runs is definitely working bc before doing that in less than an hour my heart rate would way higher


Are you working on one of the challenges from 777's thread?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:21 pm to
Nah lol

4 miles in 60 mins 6 in 90 mins is just the usually military standard at that weight

First road march I’ve done since December
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 6:04 pm
Posted by JBR2132
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2020
14 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:52 pm to
Unless the leader is an avid runner, I'd strongly suspect tomfoolery.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26526 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 7:43 am to
About to run eight miles into 8 - 12 sustained winds. Great
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26526 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:12 am to
I think I need to complain about the wind some more.

I had probably the best run of my life today. Eight miles in 1:04:58 (8:07/mile pace). I was flying. Felt amazing. Never felt out of breath or fatigued. Maybe it was the weather or just some fresh legs? To put that run in perspective, that’s five minutes faster than my eight mile time last week.

My splits are the best I’ve ever managed:

1 - 7:51
2 - 8:00
3 - 7:59
4 - 7:55
5 - 8:05
6 - 8:14
7 - 8:28
8 - 8:17

At mile 4, I was starting to think I could keep the pace going. By mile 5, I knew I had it. Thanks to all of y’all for all the advice y’all have given thus far. Hope y’all have a kickass day.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 11:13 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:20 am to
awesome dude

I'm about to load the kid up for a midday run to beat the rain

weather is perfect this morning
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27258 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:23 am to
That’s an awesome run. Are you sure the wind wasn’t at your back the whole time?
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