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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:43 pm to Tornado Alley
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:43 pm to Tornado Alley
I wouldn’t start an actual marathon plan until August if your race isn’t until December. Anything over 18 weeks is over kill imo.
There are many plans out there to choose from. A lot of folks start out with Hal higdon. He has many levels and is a good beginner Plan if your goal is to just finish.
I have used the Hanson plan my last two marathons with pr’s each time. No run was longer than 16 miles (longer runs mid week make up for the shorter weekend long runs).
But as I said earlier, I would keep base building until 18 weeks out. Or try some shorter races.
There are many plans out there to choose from. A lot of folks start out with Hal higdon. He has many levels and is a good beginner Plan if your goal is to just finish.
I have used the Hanson plan my last two marathons with pr’s each time. No run was longer than 16 miles (longer runs mid week make up for the shorter weekend long runs).
But as I said earlier, I would keep base building until 18 weeks out. Or try some shorter races.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 5:08 am to Tornado Alley
Strides are short intervals about 100 meters done at about 1500 pace. I use them as part of my warmup for speed work or races. They can also be used towards the end of an easy run to keep the legs fresh and clean up form.
I don’t know how Burt or others use them specifically, but I do 2 with about a minute jog between as part of my warmup for speed or tempo work. I use more repeats when using them as a form of speed work towards the end of a run.
I don’t know how Burt or others use them specifically, but I do 2 with about a minute jog between as part of my warmup for speed or tempo work. I use more repeats when using them as a form of speed work towards the end of a run.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 5:08 am
Posted on 3/25/20 at 6:33 am to 1999
All I’m doing is a base building plan. I thought I communicated that clearly but apparently I did not, based on some of the responses I received.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:26 am to Tornado Alley
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I’m gonna depend heavily on y’all for marathon training programming when I get there.
You shouldn't. You should do a plan that has proven success that fits your lifestyle via one of the respected coaches.
I've only got one true marathon race under my belt. I don't think LSUP and a lot of other guys on here have any marathon experience. The two most experienced marathoners on here are ksnola and PHB, but they are relatively reticent.
Pick a Hanson, McMillian, or Jack Daniels plan for when you are done building your base. The less experince/distance you have on your legs will determine how far out you start the plan.
I cannot stress enough that you shouldn't listen to us hacks on here if you want to take your first 26.2 seriously.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 9:34 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I just started working remotely yesterday. It's going to kill my steps per day
I'm starting to walk the stairs in my building at least twice a day and I've also incorporated in pushups and crunches for the time being, trying to hit 100 of each a day. That should make up for some of the lost movement. Anyone else adding anything to their WFH routine?
I'm starting to walk the stairs in my building at least twice a day and I've also incorporated in pushups and crunches for the time being, trying to hit 100 of each a day. That should make up for some of the lost movement. Anyone else adding anything to their WFH routine?
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:24 am to quail man
This is my second week working from home. Haven't really changed much. Just moved the desk job to home. I suppose I'll miss the walk commute to work but that was only 1.5 miles total.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:45 am to Tornado Alley
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All I’m doing is a base building plan. I thought I communicated that clearly but apparently I did not, based on some of the responses I received.
I missed a couple of pages. I was on vacation for a couple of weeks and did not go back to read all of the posts.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:49 am to quail man
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Anyone else adding anything to their WFH routine?
Not WHF, but I started adding in a couple of LesMills HITT workouts a week to supplement my anaerobic fitness. I already do daily resistance training and run 6 days a week when I get consistent. Not much room left for additional stuff, even under a stay at home order. I'll probably start working out in the yard more now that Spring is finally arriving in my part of the country. Then, I'll start swimming a bit after I open the pool up in late May.
This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/25/20 at 1:17 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
This is my second week as well. Other than my runs moving to lunch or after work, that's the only difference I've experienced. Meetings have actually been more entertaining because most of the people I work with have kids and you get a lot of interesting sounds in the background, including my house.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 12:33 pm to kballa6
I've run 4 days in a row now. WFH has definitely benefited me. I can start running at roughly the same time as I used to get in the office every morning. Jump in the pool to cool off, then I'm online working after that. I could get used to this.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 2:49 pm to BMoney
New goal for April: run 100 miles in the month. Longest run is 9 miles. Weeks are simple:
Monday - 4
Tuesday - 4
Wednesday - 3
Thursday - 3
Friday - 2
Saturday - 6 (4th), 7 (11th), 8 (18th), 9 (25th)
Pretty simple. Burt, that should get me some mileage and time on my feet you were talking about.
Yay or nay?
Monday - 4
Tuesday - 4
Wednesday - 3
Thursday - 3
Friday - 2
Saturday - 6 (4th), 7 (11th), 8 (18th), 9 (25th)
Pretty simple. Burt, that should get me some mileage and time on my feet you were talking about.
Yay or nay?
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/26/20 at 3:13 pm to Tornado Alley
6 miles today in this 95 degree heat
12:11 pace 153 heart rate
Zone training def makes you check your ego at the door
12:11 pace 153 heart rate
Zone training def makes you check your ego at the door
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:31 pm to Tornado Alley
Looks fine. When you've already peaked out at well over 9 for your long run, dropping back down and climbing back up isn't helping you unless you just like doing it that way. I'd rather see you consistently at 7-8 then dropping to 6 for a "long run". The long run is an endurance specialty workout. You should be taking this run the most serious.
SCH: Heart rate training for running isn't really useful for anything other than recovery if your goal is being good at running. If that isn't your goal, and it's just supplemental exercise, carry on.
SCH: Heart rate training for running isn't really useful for anything other than recovery if your goal is being good at running. If that isn't your goal, and it's just supplemental exercise, carry on.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:35 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
I don’t have any preference. I just don’t want to spend every Saturday running 10+ miles until it’s time to get serious for marathon training.
So you’re saying building mileage during the week and then taking the weekend long run seriously is the course I should take?
So you’re saying building mileage during the week and then taking the weekend long run seriously is the course I should take?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:47 pm to Tornado Alley
Or are you saying run longer less often rather than run shorter distances more often? Maybe make 125 miles my goal and run 5-7 miles per day?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 4:50 pm to Tornado Alley
Neither. When you cut your weekly long runs like that, unless your tapering for a race, you're shooting yourself in the foot. You are past the point for 6 being your weekly long run.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:03 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
I gotcha.
Would long runs of 8-10 still be beneficial? I don’t wanna run a half marathon plus every weekend now until July or August. Not sure I have the time or motivation for that
Would long runs of 8-10 still be beneficial? I don’t wanna run a half marathon plus every weekend now until July or August. Not sure I have the time or motivation for that
Posted on 3/26/20 at 5:12 pm to Tornado Alley
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8-10 still be beneficial?
Hell yes. Like I said, you could keep it in the 7-8 range... and when you're feeling squirly, knock out a tenner. The point I was trying to make is that laddering your long run is not doing you any favors. Running well requires consistency.
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