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PeepleHeppinBidness
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I've heard Eliud and his camp spend 3 months out of the year training in the Louisiana Alps. Is that not accurate?


TigeRoots
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
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Nobody’s moving to Dixie because some backwoods Louisiana baw ain’t crawled out the swamp and whipped someone’s arse on the Diamond League yet. YET



LOL!


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Honestly, I feel like I get a mental edge training in the heat and if the plasma thing is true, that’s just the cherry on top.


Totally agree.


TigeRoots
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Anybody following Badwater? Guy from BR is currently in 15th. He won Badwater Salton Sea in April and puts on some local races around here (WHOA Racing). Curious how he'll do on the climb. I follow him on Strava but don't see much elevation work (although we obviously are option limited around here). I don't think it's affected him too much in the past.
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BMoney
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Following both Walker and Derek. And Josh Holmes, who graduated from the LSU Law School. I'm surprised Derek seems to be struggling given the number of ultras he runs and does well in.

I won't be complaining about running 5 miles in 100 degree heat index this evening.


thibtigerfan
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Following Walker and Jean Aponte


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3nOut
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
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I’ve said it before... road runners are weak minded. Gotta give the trail guys credit for training and mostly not bitching about it. They seem more mentally tough but it borders arrogance, especially when they cross over to the occasional fun run 5k.



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i've got no room to talk. i'm in shite shape right now.


Tornado Alley
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I finish my 10K Hal Higdon plan on August 17. I want to run in the MS Gulf Coast Marathon/Half Marathon on December 9. Is it okay to jump straight from a 10K to a full marathon or should I get a half in?

I’ve been running for the better part of one year now with good success. I consistently run miles at an 8:30ish pace.


1999
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I would think you would be fine. I went from longest race being 8 miles to marathon. And August to December would give you plenty of time to do a full training plan.


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BMoney
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Yeah, that's almost 4 months. Throw in a fall half marathon in October (a bunch of us are running the Northshore half on October on October 27th).


Tornado Alley
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Can anyone suggest a training program? I want to complete the marathon in under 4 hours.

Higdon’s plans are all 18 weeks and I’ll only have 17 weeks to train.


1999
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
You could probably go straight in to week 2 on one of the higdon beginner programs if you’re in 10k shape.


quail man
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Yeah Hal’s novice one has 6 miles as its first week long run. So really you’ll go above and beyond.


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Black n Gold
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I wouldn't say you have to get a half in, but feel free to without messing up your training. Several of the popular plans actually incorporate race days into the schedule because they know it's hard to train four months straight for just one race.


Black n Gold
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I'm pretty sure my son and I will be running the Bogalusa Blues Festival 5K in Spetember if any of you guys want a tour of the finer parts of the NS. You are free to keep any meth you find while running.

LINK


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BMoney
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Looks like Walker finished in 34:06 and Derek DNF'd according to his Facebook post.


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TigeRoots
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Member since Oct 2008
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Went back and dug through some old articles that I read awhile back on heat acclimation and the likes. Like Burt mentioned, I started digging as more of a self fulfilling prophecy that slogging around in the heat has to be helping. Felt pretty damn acclimated today during a mid day track session. Although the feels like was "only" 95.

PubMed

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RESULTS: Ninety-six articles were reviewed. The most common duration was 7-14 days and the most common method of HA was the controlled work-rate approach. HA had a moderately beneficial effect on exercise capacity and performance in the heat irrespective of regimen; however, longer regimens were more effective than shorter approaches. HA had a moderate-to-large beneficial effect on lowering core body temperature before and during exercise, maintaining cardiovascular stability, and improving heat-loss pathways. Data are limited but HA may reduce oxygen consumption during subsequent exercise, improve glycogen sparing, increase the power output at lactate threshold, reduce lactate concentrations during exercise, have a trivial effect on increasing extracellular concentrations of Hsp, and improve perceived ratings of exertion and thermal sensation.
CONCLUSION:
HA regimens lasting <14 days induce many beneficial physiological and perceptual adaptations to high ambient temperatures, and improve subsequent exercise performance and capacity in the heat; however, the extent of the adaptations is greatest when HA regimens lasting longer than 14 days are adopted. Large methodological differences in the HA literature mean that there is still uncertainty regarding the magnitude and time course of potential adaptation for a number of physiological and perceptual variables.



PubMed

Abstract
Exercise heat acclimation induces physiological adaptations that improve thermoregulation, attenuate physiological strain, reduce the risk of serious heat illness, and improve aerobic performance in warm-hot environments and potentially in temperate environments. The adaptations include improved sweating, improved skin blood flow, lowered body temperatures, reduced cardiovascular strain, improved fluid balance, altered metabolism, and enhanced cellular protection. The magnitudes of adaptations are determined by the intensity, duration, frequency, and number of heat exposures, as well as the environmental conditions (i.e., dry or humid heat). Evidence is emerging that controlled hyperthermia regimens where a target core temperature is maintained, enable more rapid and complete adaptations relative to the traditional constant work rate exercise heat acclimation regimens. Furthermore, inducing heat acclimation outdoors in a natural field setting may provide more specific adaptations based on direct exposure to the exact environmental and exercise conditions to be encountered during competition. This review initially examines the physiological adaptations associated with heat acclimation induction regimens, and subsequently emphasizes their application to competitive athletes and sports.


" Performance in cool environment

The observation of enhanced aerobic performance in cool conditions by Lorenzo et?al. (2010) supports previous findings that heat acclimation improves V?O2max
in untrained (13%) and unfit (23%) individuals in cool conditions (Shvartz et?al., 1977). It also reinforces the 32% increase in run time to exhaustion noted in fit individuals by Scoon et?al. (2007) after acclimation via post-exercise sauna bathing, and the observation that swimmers training in a tropical climate (30?°C, 80% RH) in 30?°C water had greater improvements (10%) in performance when returning to a temperate environment (27.1?°C pool water) than swimmers who kept training in a temperate environment (Hue et?al., 2007). Other studies have also observed that team-sport athletes participating in preseason (Racinais et?al., 2014), in-season (Buchheit et?al., 2011), and off-season (heat and altitude; Buchheit et?al., 2013) training camps in the heat (~34?°C) improve performance by 7% and 44% (Yo-Yo Intermittent Recovery test level 1 and 2, respectively) in temperate conditions (~22?°C). The mechanisms modulating the transfer between hot and cool conditions could be linked to a variety of ergogenic responses, with cardiovascular/thermoregulatory (Lorenzo et?al., 2010) and cellular (Bruchim et?al., 2014) adaptations. As recently highlighted by Corbett et?al. (2014), heat acclimation may provide a stimulus for improving performance in nonthermally challenging environments via improvements in V?O2max, lactate threshold, and economy. Interestingly, it has also been suggested that heat acclimation may serve to preserve or enhance performance at altitude (White et?al., 2014). The purported pathways for such a response include plasma volume expansion, improved cardiac efficiency, and involve the up-regulation of hypoxia-inducible factor-1 in boosting oxygen delivery. Currently, however, additional research with well-designed protocols (e.g., sufficient participants and control groups) is required to elucidate the mechanisms associated with improvements in performance at altitude and in cool conditions, as well as fully substantiate the ergogenic benefits of heat acclimation on performance in these environments. "


Going deep here, but worth the read (long)
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BurtReynoldsMustache
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Member since Sep 2010
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Looks like PHB did a real good 50k trail race last night. Central Arkansas elevation > NWA elevation. Great race man, how’d it go?


TigeRoots
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Member since Oct 2008
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Saw that. Dude putting in that good work. Can’t wait to hear about it.


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TigeRoots
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Member since Oct 2008
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Burt - You no longer track HR? I don’t see it showing up on Strava anymore. What’s your resting HR/VO2 per Garmin? Just curious.


BurtReynoldsMustache
Arkansas Fan
Member since Sep 2010
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
I have the 220 so I need to wear a strap when running. I run shirtless; sun's out guns out but really it's too hot for all that nonsense. If I were to guess, my resting HR would be somewhere in the 40s and my VO2 is in the upper 50s.


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