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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:00 am to
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:00 am to
It’s always funny they call it “desert”

San Angelo is my home town and it’s a very green pretty town.

I’m doing the half for sure and trying to talk myself out of the 50k I’m not a long distance guy but I’d like to knock out a half marathon.

Let’s make a meet happen.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1944 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:04 am to
Guys I don't know if I have a half marathon in me. Any run over 7 miles, my body just shuts down. Legs get dead, get lightheaded. My body just doesn't want it to happen. Definitely don't have a half in me this spring, maybe next year, but I definitely don't think this year.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:09 am to
It can definitely take some time to build up to, not something you want to jump in for right away.

I think you can do it though, even if you use a run-walk method.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1944 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:17 am to
quote:

even if you use a run-walk method.


Yeah but I don't want to run-walk it. If I say I'm running a half, I'm going to run it lol
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:28 am to
Anyone doing/did the shamrockin’ run in NOLA?

Just found out about it and considering it
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:34 am to
If you can run 7 you can run 13.1.

Slow down. I think it is people's tendency to try an run as fast as they can, especially if they follow a thread like this and see other people putting up 5:30 pace on 5ks and 6:30 pace on 10ks.

Those are people who have been running all their lives, or at least ran when young and then off and on since.

frick fast, that is for people who are genetically elite. Anyone can run long though. If you really want to finish a half, start with distance then worry about pace.

Do the math on 1:59/13.1, it is somewhere around 9:00/mi.

If you feel the need to run fast, run 3-4 5ks during the week at your fast pace. Then on the weekend run a 9 min pace, or even 10-11 min pace starting out.

If you get 10-12 miles week in and week out M-F your legs/lungs will build the strength necessary to run 5-10+ mile long runs on the weekend at a 9-11 min pace.

Start at 5 mi long run, then each week add a mile, so a month later you are at 10.

Forget whatever fancy plan higdon or wamsley or some dude on the internet tells you to do. Strides, heart rate, intervals, etc shouldn't even be in your vocabulary right now.

The above is as basic as it gets, and you will be able to run 13.1 in 6 weeks.

Source: out of shape smoker/non-runner who followed these basic steps to complete 3 halfs in 5 weeks, one while drunk.

This advice is only if you want to finish a half in under 2:00. If you are shooting for a podium finish my advice is terrible.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:36 am to
There is no shame in walking. Especially through water stops. Your time might actually improve.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33644 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:39 am to
Two weeks out from the Mercedes Marathon in Birmingham. I am going to enjoy these couple of weeks of tapering. Gunning for 3:30 but will be happy with going under 3:40. PR is 3:35.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32391 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:07 pm to
I’ve run about 5 halves, a few under 2 hours, and walked a bit in there every time. I finished top 10 in a half with some walking in there, but was a hilly AF course.

Like you, my body shuts down, but about mile 10 these days. Having enough calories and getting calories mid run are important.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:10 pm to
I’ve walked in a couple halves, and definitely walked in my full!!
Posted by SheauxMeTheMoney
Member since May 2006
220 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:20 pm to
Walking aid stations and long/steep hills (I'm no Walmsley) has always been the best strategy for me.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1944 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:56 pm to
Alright, you bunch of jerks have talked me into not giving up yet. A-holes. Lol.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 1:59 pm to
Keep at it Brah. No shame in walking, especially in training. I’ve read about successes using the below method. May wanna give it a look.

Galloway

How’s the diet?
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1944 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 2:32 pm to
Diet is getting better, was rough for a week or 2. I was sick all last week and lost 5 lbs because I only ate 1 meal a day for like 5 days.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:26 pm to
Well boys, I'll be running around Sedona/Flagstaff at the end of April it looks like. Just booked a couple flights for my wife and I a long weekend Wed-Sun for the week after Easter. My wife has been to the area multiple times, but I'm pretty pumped. I've done a good bit of traveling, but never been to that area.

Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32391 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:30 pm to
It’s freaking fantastic. I had a job there a few years back and didn’t want to leave. One of the best places in America.

I wasn’t a runner at the time, but went on a few hikes and saw the Grand Canyon. Go look at Walmsley’s runs and you’ll find some spots.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:41 pm to
Yeah we are tossing around the idea of retiring somewhere out there. Of course, decades away, but it’s in the cards.

Not sure I’ll be able to get after it like I want to with my wife tagging along but will be a blast either way.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 1/27/19 at 10:35 pm to
Jan 28-Feb3

Mon-Strength Train

Tue-8 miles. First 2 miles comfortable at 7:50, middle 4 miles at 6:30, last 2 miles at 6:55.

Wed- 6 mile comfortable @ 7:30. 6 x 100yd hill sprints

Thu- Strength Train

Fri- 1 mile jog warm-up; 6 x 1 mile @ 6:30 w/1:00 jog between; 1 mile jog cool-down.

Sat- 6 miles @ 7:00; 6 x 100yd strides.

Sun- 14 miles @ 7:30—8:00, last 7 miles @ 6:55
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15962 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Sun- 14 miles @ 7:30—8:00, last 7 miles @ 6:55


Not to draw comparisons between you and I, bc your long run pace is a solid 1.5 minute faster than mine, but I've been doing something similar for the past month or so. Running the first 3/5 to 4/5 slow as shite, with the last 2-3 miles at least a minute or more faster. I end them feeling stronger both physically and mentally. Hard to imagine putting in a long run any differently going forward.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:29 am
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:47 am to
Definitely seems like a good idea to imitate a negative split for races!
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