Keto/Paleo diet doesn't appeal to me. What to use?

Count your calories.

I did the Mediterranean diet when I first started to lose weight.

The Mediterranean diet emphasizes:

Eating primarily plant-based foods, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts

Replacing butter with healthy fats such as olive oil and canola oil

Using herbs and spices instead of salt to flavor foods

Limiting red meat to no more than a few times a month

Eating fish and poultry at least twice a week

Drinking red wine in moderation (optional)

Getting plenty of exercise

LINK

Eta: It's not on this list but non-fat dairy is a part of it too. I still eat Greek yogurt almost every day.

Started out with whole wheat bread for sandwiches and oatmeal for breakfast as well. I lost 85 lbs in about 10 months.

I'd suggest intermittent fasting. Could be that you only need to lose 10 lbs, but because of the inflammation accumulated inside your body, it appears you're more overweight than you really are. IF also goes pretty hand in hand with counting calories too because you aren't snacking all day. Might want to start cutting out most liquids for a few weeks aside from water.

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Keto recipes don't appeal to me at all.

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What appeals to you ?

Look of this, most people will lose weight doing this.

Follow the greyskull lp or some other progressive overload program. See the putthaforkdown thread for links.

Do lift 3 a week. Other days you can do eat cardio if you want. Lift days, do a ten min hard conditioning session. Think metcon.

For diet, 3 meals a day. Eating from 12-8. Meals consisting on meat and veggies except after working out where you can have carbs from the following, no fried food allowed

Rice-any kind
Potatoes- any kind
Fruit


Your plates should consist of the following

Two palms of meat
Two fist of veggies

After workout do
Two fist of meat
Two fist carbs

If you want you can have a protein shake after workout. Other then that everything is real whole food, no fried food.

Do this for 12 weeks. Every time you make a plate, weigh your food and note everything into MyFitnessPal and compare the weights of the food versus your fist.

This is going to teach you how to count your macros and if you hot the gslp hard with the morning fasted walks and the conditioning hard you are gonna make more progress then you thought possible.

Meph

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In the end it's all about weekly calories and daily protein. Everything else is just tools when it comes to body composition. Health is a different topic but the healthiest diet is still going to be the one that allows you the most progress, that will be the one you stick too. If you don't have pre existing conditions anyways.

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This is 100% truth and all that matters. Needs to be in a 30 font sticky on the front of the Health and Fitness Board. lol

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I’ve become a huge fan of macro counting/flexible dieting. Lost 40lbs and have kept it off for a year. I used Avatar nutrition. By day the least miserable I’ve ever been while losing weight.

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I don’t like to be preachy and/or tell people what program to follow, but this IMO is the best I’ve seen and most substantial

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In the end it's all about weekly calories

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Weekly calories? Are we just making up shite now?

Lsu777 is right. Go listen to all those guys and they all preach the same thing and have the science to back it up

James Smith is awesome.

On weekly calories all that matters is the average of the 7 days and if you hit your goal

Mine is 3200, some days are 2800 and some are 3400.