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Great Debate Squats/Deadlifts Spinoff

Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13892 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:22 pm
From the squats and deadlifts thread I was curious what the board had by way of favorite articles or videos in squat/deads form.

With all sorts of bad information on the internet I was looking for a discussion on proper form.

Also feel free to add other lifts into this discussion.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:34 pm to
All listed videos are YouTube.

Best squat info:

So you think you can squat series from Dave Tate/Elite FTS. Also 5 pillars of a great squat from Chad Wesley Smith and Juggernaut.

Best deadlift info:

Brian Alsruhe's various videos on deadlift form. 5 pillars of deadlift from Juggernaut (broken into both conventional and sumo depending on your style).

Breathing and bracing (a related subtopic for both):

Chris Duffin and Brian Alsruhe both have good videos on this topic.

There are a buttload of subtopics. If you have more specific questions, feel free to ask. I've watched a ton of form based stuff as I get older and form matters more.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70270 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:49 pm to
Best deadlift advice I received was from Garry Frank, at the time he had a 900 plus deadlift in the SHW class
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Garry Frank


He's training me right now. Awesome guy.
Posted by ZweiBierBitte
Monterey
Member since May 2018
68 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11340 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

With all sorts of bad information on the internet I was looking for a discussion on proper form.



Google T Nation. Best place on the net for advice on lifting and everything that goes with it.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
12342 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 4:37 am to
Jeff Cavaliere videos on deadlift are pretty good. Breaks it down fairly easy.
Posted by JPB
Dallas
Member since Sep 2015
157 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:19 am to
I follow Jeff quite a bit because I like philosophy of training like an athlete. Dude is super smart. I do feel like he sometimes has the attitude of "my way is the only way" though
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3911 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:15 am to
Jeff has some good stuff but his flavor of the month bi-polarness gets on my nerves.

I feel like way too often I'll be in the middle of a video with him harping on how you should never do 'exercise XYZ' and one of his related videos on the right is titled "do exercise XYZ to blow up your gains".
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:28 am to
Judge me harshly if you want, because Rippetoe is well recognized, and I'm some guy on a message board.

His low bar squat technique, particularly hip position, does not work for me at all. Trying to build off a video of his about hip drive injured me and I had to spend months correcting form.

That said, I've done his programs and follow basically a Texas Method upper body setup to this day. I just had a really bad time with some of his low bar technique advice.
Posted by CorkRockingham
Member since Jun 2017
502 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:36 am to
I was trained by Garry for a few years. How is he doing? is John and Greg still training there?
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
25084 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:15 am to
I liked Alan Thrall’s deadlift video
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

was trained by Garry for a few years. How is he doing? is John and Greg still training there?


He is doing good. Kind of slowing down and getting his new gym situated. Don't know of John or Greg. Just a few younger people in there on occasion.

He loves some MSU. Helps that I went there lol
Posted by CorkRockingham
Member since Jun 2017
502 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:49 pm to
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Posted by ZweiBierBitte
Monterey
Member since May 2018
68 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:42 pm to
No judgement brother. What works for some might not work for others! For me, these verbal cues were what I needed to get out of the method that I was taught during football workouts way back in the day -- high bar, vertical back, not getting low enough.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70270 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:23 pm to
How are you liking his training methods?

The guy was breaking records with a piss poor diet odd training times and training others back in 2001. Then started eating cleaner and crushed his records

He’s a genetic anomaly
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70270 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:25 pm to
Yeah he played football there and I think he thre shot put

I know greg was trained by Garry when he was in high school. Strong guy
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