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Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:48 am
Posted by BayouBengal23
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:48 am
I workout in the mornings and would like to add a run to my post workout. I’ve tried running here and there but have such a hard time keeping my heart rate down. I can push through the leg pain but my competitive nature won’t let me run 10-11 minute mile.

Should I get fit bit or something to monitor heart rate so I can start building up distance?
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:53 am to
What are your goals by adding running?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:00 am to
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my competitive nature won’t let me run 10-11 minute mile.



Get a HR monitor. Find your zone 2 HR range. Run/walk in that range and not a timed pace.


Zone 2 training has been the hardest thing I've ever tried. Mentally, it's really hard to do.


ETA: I will get my VO2 checked again after my half marathon in April. If my VO2 has improved, I'll keep going with the zone 2 stuff.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:01 am to
quote:

What are your goals by adding running?


Great question. Mental endurance more than physical. But I like the physical benefits.

If I had to put a practical goal, I’d like to be able to run a half marathon eventually at 8:30 pace.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:06 am to
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I’d like to be able to run a half marathon eventually at 8:30 pace.



Very reasonable goal. Easily attainable with some training and the right amount of time.
Posted by benson32
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:25 am to
You don’t have any aerobic fitness.

Slow down and run more. Increase your miles <10% each week to prevent injury.
Posted by Gifman
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:40 am to
Are you doing leg day then running? You mentioned leg pain. How long are you stretching before your run?
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:42 am to
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You mentioned leg pain.


Talking about at mile 4-5 my legs start hurting just from the distance. I wouldn’t stretch a whole lot to be honest.

I’ve never done morning workout followed by a run. It’s either been one or the other!
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:27 pm to
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my competitive nature won’t let me run 10-11 minute mile


Run a 12-13 minute mile. You’ll thank me later.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:30 pm to
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I’d like to be able to run a half marathon eventually at 8:30 pace.


I ran for a few years. Hardly ever ran a training run under 8:30 pace. Mostly in the 9:30 range. My half marathon was 8:15 pace. You have to build up a good base and that takes long slow runs. In order to do that you have to start with short slow runs.
Posted by BayouBengal23
BR
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:35 pm to
How do I find my perfect pace to build that base?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:42 pm to
Just walk unless you are training to run some kind of race.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Get a HR monitor. Find your zone 2 HR range. Run/walk in that range and not a timed pace. Zone 2 training has been the hardest thing I've ever tried. Mentally, it's really hard to do.


What’s your half marathon pace? Are you walk/running that shite? Cause that’s gay.
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:11 pm to
You have to start slow and build if you want to get in better shape.

It is a pain but honestly becomes the norm as you get better. My advice is to run for time instead of a distance.

On your next run, go for 30 minutes instead of a certain amount of miles. This will slow you down and make you stay moving for the entire time. If you come out like a mad man to start you will burn out. This to me is the most effective way to slow yourself down.

Everyone is different though baw. Building the right way will limit injuries and will make you appreciate running much more.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:22 pm to
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What’s your half marathon pace?


8:15 in the Mercedes half marathon last year. Have the Bridge St half marathon this year in April.

Had a 7:25 5K this year. Goal is to get my 5K/10K pace below 7 mins. I turn 50 this year btw.


80/20 is a well established training protocol. Did hill repeats for my speed work last night. 6 sprints for 2 mins each at or above 5K pace. Will have a threshold run in there too which for me is a 140-150 HR which is in the 9-11 min range.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted by idontyield
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Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:23 pm to
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Zone 2 training has been the hardest thing I've ever tried. Mentally, it's really hard to do.


I just got a hr monitor and started zone2 training. It is difficult to stay that low.

What program are you following? I'm running 3 days a week. Tuesday around 6 miles at zone 2, thursdays i run six miles with intervals( 8x400 with zone 2 before, between and after), then a long zone 2 on saturday or sunday (8-12 miles). I completely made up this program on my own and am wondering if it is good.

I am hoping to improve my 10k times and also build up to doing some trail half marathons.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3589 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:24 pm to
When I restart after too much time off, I sometimes see 16 min miles to keep my heart rate down. After 2 months of the grind, your mile time plummets. Embrace the suck.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:28 pm to
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What program are you following?



Matt Fitgerald's level 3 half marathon plan from his 80/20 book.

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13386 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:35 pm to
The leg pain is mostly from being new to running, but do yourself a favor and get some new running shoes. Actual running shoes sold by a running shoe store, not whatever Nike/Adidas is $50 at Dick’s.
Posted by idontyield
Tunnel Trash
Member since Jun 2022
337 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Matt Fitgerald's level 3 half marathon plan from his 80/20 book


How many days a week is it? Does he have a 3 day a week plan? I mostly mtn bike so 3 days a week is all I really wanna commit to running.

Have you seen some success from it? How long did it take if so?
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