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re: Eating for performance/RP Strength Thread
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:29 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:29 pm to LSU Patrick
It’s basically al whole wheat wraps, whole grain pasta and white rice
Along with OJ, bananas and greens
Along with OJ, bananas and greens
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 4:38 pm to LSU Patrick
1) RP, while generally a pretty healthful diet, is a performance-based nutrition system first and foremost.
2) If you're in a mass gain phase you have to eat a lot, and after a while it becomes nearly impossible to eat those calories in traditionally 'healthy' carbs due to volume and fiber content.
2) If you're in a mass gain phase you have to eat a lot, and after a while it becomes nearly impossible to eat those calories in traditionally 'healthy' carbs due to volume and fiber content.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 5:05 pm to Hulkklogan
Yea during this strength cycle I’m filling in the gaps by eating throughout the day as well as my meal times
Like a banana or bagel here or there
That many carbs in one sitting is hard
Like a banana or bagel here or there
That many carbs in one sitting is hard
Posted on 1/21/20 at 10:48 pm to LSU Patrick
Can you explain why you think it's unhealthy? When actual scientific studies to back it?
I might not agree with RP on protein recommendation, but if you are eating at bodyweight for protein, the calories have to come some where and if performance or muscle building is the goal better to come from carbs than fat.
I might not agree with RP on protein recommendation, but if you are eating at bodyweight for protein, the calories have to come some where and if performance or muscle building is the goal better to come from carbs than fat.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 5:00 am to lsu777
It’s unhealthy if it’s 400 grams of simple carbs/sugar. The science absolutely backs that up.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 7:43 am to LSU Patrick
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It’s unhealthy if it’s 400 grams of simple carbs/sugar. The science absolutely backs that up.
no one is advocating 400gs of simple carbs and sugars
RP isn't a if it fits your macros plan
they have a pretty well defined food guide
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:56 am to LSU Patrick
He said carbs not sugar. And on RP, the carbs are defined and timed based on the workouts and their intensity.
Like stated it's not a free for all. Btw the RP diet is backed by science too and a team of over 20 doctors in that field.
Like stated it's not a free for all. Btw the RP diet is backed by science too and a team of over 20 doctors in that field.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 2:46 pm to lsu777
Yea dunno why people are in here shite talking it
its results for the regular person or their athletes speak for themselves
its results for the regular person or their athletes speak for themselves
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:28 pm to lsu777
I don't know all the ins and outs of RP. I simply stated that 400 grams of carbs seems unhealthy unless a good portion of it is coming from nutrient dense sources. If there is a guide that includes whole grains and leafy green vegetables, then that could certainly be healthy.
BTW, I disagree with the idea that getting the extra calories from carbs is better than from fats. As you suggested, it depends on the types of carbs and fats and your individual goals. Healthy fats are very important to have in the diet for a multitude of reasons. Dietary fiber and healthy fats/oils are essential for the production of good cholesterol as well.
BTW, I disagree with the idea that getting the extra calories from carbs is better than from fats. As you suggested, it depends on the types of carbs and fats and your individual goals. Healthy fats are very important to have in the diet for a multitude of reasons. Dietary fiber and healthy fats/oils are essential for the production of good cholesterol as well.
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/22/20 at 3:50 pm to LSU Patrick
Above 40-50g of fat a day, fat becomes pretty useless when it comes to performance and building muscle. Fat is the easiest macro to store as bodyfat and after the aforementioned level causes very very little anabolism like protein and carbs do.
You don't lose bodyfat any faster in ketosis than you do from eating a high carb diet once calories and protein are equated.
When it comes to body comp it's real simple calories are king, protein is the queen, carbs are the princess and fat is nothing more than a court jester.
Speaking strictly from a healthy and longevity standpoint, you may and I emphasis may have a point. If you are not lifting heavy and very hard then you don't need to eat that many.
But that is why it's called eating for performance. Btw Dante trudal and Stan offering prolly know more about health of lifters and how to manipulate things than anyone for health and they both recommend very close to RP.
I mean RO does have over 20 people with doctorates in the field designing diets and programs, they do know what they are doing.
You don't lose bodyfat any faster in ketosis than you do from eating a high carb diet once calories and protein are equated.
When it comes to body comp it's real simple calories are king, protein is the queen, carbs are the princess and fat is nothing more than a court jester.
Speaking strictly from a healthy and longevity standpoint, you may and I emphasis may have a point. If you are not lifting heavy and very hard then you don't need to eat that many.
But that is why it's called eating for performance. Btw Dante trudal and Stan offering prolly know more about health of lifters and how to manipulate things than anyone for health and they both recommend very close to RP.
I mean RO does have over 20 people with doctorates in the field designing diets and programs, they do know what they are doing.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 4:20 pm to lsu777
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Above 40-50g of fat a day, fat becomes pretty useless when it comes to performance and building muscle.
As I said, it depends on your goals. My general health is more important to me than a little more muscle. I run and weight train throughout the week and have plenty of energy without eating a ton of carbs.
I'm definitely not pushing keto either. I tried that for the hell of it, and it wasn't for me.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 8:44 pm to LSU Patrick
Well this is a diet based on performance and still being healthy
It’s not a if it fits your macros deal
My post workout meal tonight
Was three whole wheat steak wraps with lettuce inside, a serving of broccoli, sweat potato fries and a glass of OJ
That is very healthy
My only gripe about the diet is trying to limit fat consumption post workout
It’s a very hard macro goal to not bust when it’s only 10g of fast post workout
It’s not a if it fits your macros deal
My post workout meal tonight
Was three whole wheat steak wraps with lettuce inside, a serving of broccoli, sweat potato fries and a glass of OJ
That is very healthy
My only gripe about the diet is trying to limit fat consumption post workout
It’s a very hard macro goal to not bust when it’s only 10g of fast post workout
Posted on 1/27/20 at 6:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Eating those 300+ grams of carbs a day is actually really easy now that I’ve figured it out
I’ve gained 4 pounds in 3 weeks and still have my abs and look lean. Not much fat put on so far.
The program I’m running in the other day I’m burning 700-1000 cals a day just in the gym
Never thought I’d burn 800 cals in one lifting session
I’ve gained 4 pounds in 3 weeks and still have my abs and look lean. Not much fat put on so far.
The program I’m running in the other day I’m burning 700-1000 cals a day just in the gym
Never thought I’d burn 800 cals in one lifting session
Posted on 1/27/20 at 11:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Bro I confess, I can't do RP. I just can't. I can hit the macros but I am way too busy during the day to eat like this. I finally realized why I quit last time.
Plus honestly unless it's white rice with just a little brown rice every once in a while, the carbs kill my stomach. I end up just wanting to eat fruit and rice and it can get old.
Just gonna go back to my old steady that is similar to ketogains. In about 6 weeks I'll start putting strategically timed carbs back in around the workout.
I admire your dedication.
Plus honestly unless it's white rice with just a little brown rice every once in a while, the carbs kill my stomach. I end up just wanting to eat fruit and rice and it can get old.
Just gonna go back to my old steady that is similar to ketogains. In about 6 weeks I'll start putting strategically timed carbs back in around the workout.
I admire your dedication.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:10 am to lsu777
Carbs destroy my stomach. I get super bloated. Possibly a probiotic issue but I take some and it still is an issue.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:31 am to lsu777
The timing is what actually helps me. If not I try to cram all my macros into a few meals and feel like shite. I think it just depends on schedule and stuff. I have found good success with the program though
Posted on 1/28/20 at 12:25 pm to thibtigerfan
It's an amazing program, I personally just can't keep up with it. 
Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:34 pm to lsu777
The only thing I don’t like is the low fat in the post workout meal
Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
There is actually a very real and scientific reason for it. Nutrition partitioning is at its peak and high fat essentially shuts it down. But yes nothing better than a big juicy steak after lifting. 
Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:42 pm to lsu777
but i want that steak lol
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