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Do you worry about cholesterol and saturated fat?
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 5/24/23 at 9:26 pm
I’ve cut way back on sugar and bread and processed foods. But I’m eating two or three eggs a day and red meat several days a week too. I feel great and have dropped weight but just worrying I’m clogging up my arteries with all the eggs and red meat.
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:08 pm to Allthatfades
You won’t. Dietary cholesterol does not translate to body cholesterol.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:16 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Dietary cholesterol does not translate to body cholesterol.
*for most of the population
There are some genetic variation.
Worst thing I have seen for cholesterol is french press coffee
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:34 am to X123F45
well non filtered coffee is terrible for you anyways, like terrible terrible to the point of taking years off your life.
OP 99% of the benifits come from the weight loss. dont worry fat or cholesterol. after you loose the weight...if you have cholesterol issues then come back and discuss with us.
but in general what you are feeling is just because you have been brainwashed by the media influenced by liberal climate guys trying to get you to eat less meat. dont fall for it.
always always eat like a man and you will be fine.
OP 99% of the benifits come from the weight loss. dont worry fat or cholesterol. after you loose the weight...if you have cholesterol issues then come back and discuss with us.
but in general what you are feeling is just because you have been brainwashed by the media influenced by liberal climate guys trying to get you to eat less meat. dont fall for it.
always always eat like a man and you will be fine.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:39 am to lsu777
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well non filtered coffee is terrible for you anyways, like terrible terrible to the point of taking years off your life.
So my daily espresso shot is killing me? Guess I've lived a good enough life, I'm not giving that up
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:55 am to lsu777
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well non filtered coffee is terrible for you anyways, like terrible terrible to the point of taking years off your life.
Can you elaborate on this? I use one of the keurig refillable pods, but just recently started using a filter in it (only to make cleanup easier).
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:46 am to Tiger_n_Texas
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Can you elaborate on this? I use one of the keurig refillable pods, but just recently started using a filter in it (only to make cleanup easier).
metal screens are also considered unfiltered
but it raises LDL and triglyceride levels
and the chemicals that are found in unfiltered coffee tend to cause heart issues and reduce longevity big time
where 3-4 cups of black filtered coffee tends to benifit the health markers of the heart and in coorlation studies helps extend longevity.
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This can make an important difference. Norwegian scientists studied half a million adults for twenty years (European Journal of Preventive Cardiology, Dec. 2020). Those who drank filtered coffee (one to four cups daily) were least likely to die during the study. People who drank nine cups or so of unfiltered coffee a day had the highest mortality rate.
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The way you brew your coffee can change its health effects. Unfiltered coffee (also called boiled coffee or cowboy coffee) raises cholesterol, including undesirable LDL cholesterol (American Journal of Epidemiology, Feb. 15, 2001). French press, Scandinavian and Turkish style coffee have all been shown to raise cholesterol because they are unfiltered. Drip-filtered, instant and percolator coffee do not (New England Journal of Medicine, July 23, 2020).
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Conclusion: Unfiltered brew was associated with higher mortality than filtered brew, and filtered brew was associated with lower mortality than no coffee consumption.
in other words...filtered coffee= live longer than non coffee drinkers....unfiltered coffee= not living as long as non coffee drinkers
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:50 am to lsu777
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metal screens are also considered unfiltered
Thank you for the information and link. I use paper filters inside the metal filter.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:43 am to lsu777
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Conclusion: Unfiltered brew was associated with higher mortality than filtered brew, and filtered brew was associated with lower mortality than no coffee consumption.
Man, I really have to see more of that study. 9 cups a day?!
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That one says there was no difference, I believe.
Also, is it just a spike and serum levels drop after an extended period? An elevated serum level from 9 cups a day will likely skew any real information.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:12 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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That one says there was no difference, I believe.
Also, is it just a spike and serum levels drop after an extended period? An elevated serum level from 9 cups a day will likely skew any real information.
well the 20 year study got me, its coorlation but its still pretty strong.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:37 am to lsu777
I dunno man, really seems like one of those studies where they spike a rat with high dose and see if it does something.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:52 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
9 cups a day of anything but water probably causes some problems. I think my 12 oz a day, filtered 9/10 times and otherwise metal basket or French press, isn't what is going to get me.
They really need to require a basic nutrition class, probably middle school. It's great that in many spots they started teaching fundamentals of personal finance in high school, I think smart nutrition and what your body actually does with what you put in it would be great too. We got snippets of it in "life science" and maybe a week of health class when they wouldn't let us do proper PE, but it wasn't enough to remember.
They really need to require a basic nutrition class, probably middle school. It's great that in many spots they started teaching fundamentals of personal finance in high school, I think smart nutrition and what your body actually does with what you put in it would be great too. We got snippets of it in "life science" and maybe a week of health class when they wouldn't let us do proper PE, but it wasn't enough to remember.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:55 am to calcotron
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9 cups a day of anything but water probably causes some problems. I think my 12 oz a day, filtered 9/10 times and otherwise metal basket or French press, isn't what is going to get me.
the 9 cups was saying it helps health
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:56 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I dunno man, really seems like one of those studies where they spike a rat with high dose and see if it does something.
it wasnt saying 9 cups of unfiltered was bad, it was saying 9 cups of black coffee=lots of benifits
unfiltered cooralated to less longevity across the board
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:15 pm to lsu777
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The HRs for CVD and IHD were raised when omitting total cholesterol from the model, and most pronounced in those drinking =9 of unfiltered coffee, per day where they were raised by 9% for IHD mortality.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:19 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
my bad missed that partPosted on 5/25/23 at 12:38 pm to lsu777
I expect that in a hundred years when we better understand biochemistry we will look back on this era of correlative "studies" as dark times of health science. You can take nearly any vice and know that people who do that have other vices, and you have no idea which one is pulling which lever unless you do a real study (which is usually really hard or impossible).
Posted on 5/25/23 at 12:41 pm to lsu777
So Kurig coffee is unfiltered? I never even thought about it.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:34 pm to OysterPoBoy
Idk, dont drink it.
But I can tell you the only time I ever had questionable levels of anything is after a week of irish coffees every morning. Coupled with a week of binge drinking bourbon and tequila on vacation.
Same test the following year, filtered coffee instead, same drinking and eating.
Same month even, only slightly elevated liver enzymes.
My body can process 3-5l of alcohol no problem in a week, but 7 french press coffees and the system goes haywire
But I can tell you the only time I ever had questionable levels of anything is after a week of irish coffees every morning. Coupled with a week of binge drinking bourbon and tequila on vacation.
Same test the following year, filtered coffee instead, same drinking and eating.
Same month even, only slightly elevated liver enzymes.
My body can process 3-5l of alcohol no problem in a week, but 7 french press coffees and the system goes haywire
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