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Do you baws still get sore?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:49 am
I've been back in the gym for about 6 months now. My question is pretty self explanatory. I work pretty much to failure (as close to it as I can get comfortably since I work out without a spot) on my key lifts. For example a 5x5 bench the last set is tough and the fifth rep I'm close to failing, but I don't get sore at all. I work out in the morning, and it feels like I could do another workout in the evening. I do realize on my second workout of the week on chest I am a little weaker as I guess I haven't fully recovered, but I get really no soreness.
What are the long time lifters experience with this? I do plenty of auxiliary work and stuff (I lift for about an hour) so I can't do much more work in, and don't feel like I can go much heavier. TIA for the guidance.
What are the long time lifters experience with this? I do plenty of auxiliary work and stuff (I lift for about an hour) so I can't do much more work in, and don't feel like I can go much heavier. TIA for the guidance.
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I don't anymore. I use to when I did legs but I've been squatting every workout and it's been great.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 9:58 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I workout by myself as well
I still get sore pretty much every day
I am not saying you are not going heavy enough or not going hard enough in the gym because it takes a lot for my arms to get sore and sometimes they don't get sore
Everyone's body is different
But from my experience of years of training and competing... if you aren't sore, then you are not going hard enough.
I still get sore pretty much every day
I am not saying you are not going heavy enough or not going hard enough in the gym because it takes a lot for my arms to get sore and sometimes they don't get sore
Everyone's body is different
But from my experience of years of training and competing... if you aren't sore, then you are not going hard enough.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:09 am to LSUweights
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But from my experience of years of training and competing... if you aren't sore, then you are not going hard enough
I agree and want to work that hard, but if I were to put more weight on the bar I wouldn't be able to do all the reps. I might could push a little more weight, but it wouldn't be safe without a spotter. That's my dilemma. I don't really know what to do
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:22 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Sometimes when I bench, I know 315 is a struggle for just 3 reps, so I'll do 3 sets of 2-3 reps with 315 to make sure I am pushing it
If by the 3rd set I have doubts of those reps, I'll find someone in the gym and ask them to spot..... 99% won't mind
If by the 3rd set I have doubts of those reps, I'll find someone in the gym and ask them to spot..... 99% won't mind
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Started Greyskul this week. Doms is always debilitating for me in the legs when i get back in the gym for the first 2 or 3 workouts.
After that i usually never get doms again
After that i usually never get doms again
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:29 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Your muscles absolutely get conditioned to your workout routine. Come off the weight 15% but double or triple your reps. Keep your muscles guessing.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I'm no where near a hardcore lifter but one of the great things about using an established program with a lot of different templates (5-3-1 for me) is that I can switch up accessory exercises when I need to get more work in when I need it or have time, always slightly more sore when I switch up.
Also consider dropping you rest time between sets for a workout or two and see how you feel after.
Also consider dropping you rest time between sets for a workout or two and see how you feel after.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:54 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I concentrate on the nuances of moves, so yes I still do get sore.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:12 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Soreness doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things if you are doing the same movement pattern. Progression is a much better indicator of success. Beat the damn log book.
As far as the question, depends. If I throw in high rep stuff for legs, yes. Sometimes for upper body when I throw in high lactic acid workouts, yea I do. But if I stick to the same workout and am only adding weight or reps, not much. Like yesterday I threw in the 3 min of rest pause seated db curl workout and yea biceps are sore today but not bad. Legs are sore from bring sally up squats on Monday, again not bad though.
As far as the question, depends. If I throw in high rep stuff for legs, yes. Sometimes for upper body when I throw in high lactic acid workouts, yea I do. But if I stick to the same workout and am only adding weight or reps, not much. Like yesterday I threw in the 3 min of rest pause seated db curl workout and yea biceps are sore today but not bad. Legs are sore from bring sally up squats on Monday, again not bad though.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:15 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Yup.
Legs were shot for 4 days last week after 4x10 squats @ 270 followed by 10 RFT: 9 Thrusters (95) and 35 DUs.
Legs were shot for 4 days last week after 4x10 squats @ 270 followed by 10 RFT: 9 Thrusters (95) and 35 DUs.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:17 am to lsu777
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Progression is a much better indicator of succes
I'm still progressing as far as weight goes so I guess I'm good. I just don't want to waste time and not get the best results while I'm in the gym
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I honestly like constantly just being a little sore. It makes me feel like I'm really doing something 
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:33 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I change my workouts every 4 weeks and I'm super sore the entire first week of the new workout. By week 4 my body has adjusted and I'm on a new routine. If you aren't sore you aren't mixing it up enough or you're leaving too much in the tank.
Instead of doing the same movements for each muscle group mix it up - instead of 5x5 flat bench, try opening with dumbbell bench 5x5 super-set with pull-ups to failure. Or add tension bands to the bench if you're still doing barbell. You can do close grip or wide grip too. There are so many ways to switch it up.
Not saying you specifically do this, but I see tons of guys in the gym that don't plan out their lifts and end up doing the same sets/reps and same movements without progress for months or years. If you plan out your lifts before you get in the gym you will be more creative and more likely to push yourself.
ETA:
Find a program to follow. I know a lot of guys on here have good programs. I follow Cory G's "get stacked" plan. They kill me and my lifts are getting better each 4 week period.
Instead of doing the same movements for each muscle group mix it up - instead of 5x5 flat bench, try opening with dumbbell bench 5x5 super-set with pull-ups to failure. Or add tension bands to the bench if you're still doing barbell. You can do close grip or wide grip too. There are so many ways to switch it up.
Not saying you specifically do this, but I see tons of guys in the gym that don't plan out their lifts and end up doing the same sets/reps and same movements without progress for months or years. If you plan out your lifts before you get in the gym you will be more creative and more likely to push yourself.
ETA:
Find a program to follow. I know a lot of guys on here have good programs. I follow Cory G's "get stacked" plan. They kill me and my lifts are getting better each 4 week period.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:41 am to olemissfan26
Muscle confusion is a bullshite concept and has been proven over and over again to be so. No offense everything in your first two paragraphs is complete bullshite. Of course then you turn around and hit the nail on the hard the last two paragraphs.....so confused with you as a poster, always all over the map 
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:48 am to lsu777
Man I'm not a fitness genius so I hope people don't take my advice as science
I try to learn as much as possible though from some of y'all that are more experienced. If you have any articles showing why muscle confusion is bad I'd be all ears. I've seen good progress from the plan I've been following doing a ton of movements I've never done before.
I try to learn as much as possible though from some of y'all that are more experienced. If you have any articles showing why muscle confusion is bad I'd be all ears. I've seen good progress from the plan I've been following doing a ton of movements I've never done before.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 1:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I tend to stay slightly sore now, nothing too bad. Mainly the day after for the particular muscle group.
At 40+ now in age though, it is my joints that act up. After a heavy lift day, some joints will just freaking hurt.
What is a good solution for hurting joints?
At 40+ now in age though, it is my joints that act up. After a heavy lift day, some joints will just freaking hurt.
What is a good solution for hurting joints?
Posted on 9/13/17 at 5:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Nah, not really. Once you have years of consistent training, it's hard to get sore. I hate when noobs think they aren't making progress just because they don't get sore.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 6:32 pm to The Dudes Rug
Only after high reps. Doing the 5/3/1 BBB full body 3 days a week and the 5x10 sets of squats will get me.
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