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re: Dealing with snacking at work

Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:34 pm to
I tried avatar for 2ish months. It was good but I dropped it after how absolutely dogshit horrible their UI is. They are adamant against making it a proper app.

I would use Carbon honestly.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:36 pm to
You must know more about this than me - isn't calorie burn directly related to your heart rate?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:39 pm to
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You must know more about this than me - isn't calorie burn directly related to your heart rate?


In part, but thats not even close to being the only factor, and whether you spend two 10 minutes sessions at the same heart rate or one 20 minute session at that heart rate you are accomplishing the same thjng
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:25 pm to
Exercise plays a pretty small role in daily caloric burn, actually.





You do whatever exercise you like because you like it and it makes you feel good, not to lose weight.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:26 pm to
That may be true but it has a massive effect on aesthetics and body composition
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:01 pm to
For sure, especially lifting weights. Buy not everyone aspires to have a muscular physique. Plenty of people want to just be not fat.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:32 pm to
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Buy not everyone aspires to have a muscular physique. Plenty of people want to just be not fat.


I aspire to have a decent looking body, some muscles, a bit of definition, etc.

But right now, I aspire to just not be and look fat. "Dad bod" might be a good short term goal for me, and a more fit looking body a long term goal.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72018 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 6:18 pm to
Calculate how many calories you need to operate in a deficit. Come up with a plan on how you want to distribute those calories throughout the day. For some that’s your calories divided by 3 meals. Some do 6 meals. For me, I look at is as the longer you can hold out eating, the more calories you can bank before your day is over, thus allowing you to eat more palatable stuff. Not an invitation to eat junk, but you won’t have to be as strict.

You should eliminate snacking as those calories will add up quick. It’s going to be hard to break your habit. Sounds like you’re work situation won’t help considering you have access to so much junk. You need to reprogram yourself. Go for a walk when you get a craving
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 6:26 pm
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 6:35 pm to
The numbers provided don't get you to 80. It's like you want to continue to exaggerate the numbers, which already seem questionable, to make this guy out to be worse off than he is. So no, you're not "excused".

I never suggested eating a bunch of sugar alcohols to be at optimum levels of nutrients. So here we go again...
Why would anyone want to do this? You continuously tell me that I'm suggesting things that I'm not. Why would anyone want to spend their time continuously correcting misrepresentations? Do you understand how annoying that is?

I already suggested looking into a multivitamin, but that's more to just try to make up for whatever may be lacking. It's preferable to get those nutrients from a real variety of foods.

You started responding to me and continuously distorting what I said. I take that insulting and annoying. If you felt insulted by my responses to that, that's appropriate because that's what I was going for based on how you insulted me. I have no desire to argue with you. How does that make sense to you? Think about this -- you started with me, I'm telling you what a waste of time all the distortions and made-up numbers are, but you think I'm looking for an argument?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 6:48 pm to
Do you want to help the OP or do you want to be a crybaby bitch?
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:01 pm to
Good one...

To reiterate my suggestion -- let's end this.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:54 pm to
I recommend taking up lifting regardless, but you certainly don't have to if you don't want to.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:11 pm to
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They are adamant against making it a proper app.


It started as a web app then after Layne got booted they made a phone app, and it was ok. Layout was garbage still, they need a new design team, but the app was stable and not slow. Buy they could only ever get an Android app. For some reason they couldn't get their app onto the Apple store no matter how much they tried, so they just went web app. Easier for them to update and maintain vs multiple versions of phone app, and obviously no app store requirement. Down side is it's horribly slow and buggy.


James Smith Academy is a web app also but it looks and feels like any other app. They did a wonderful job.

I think Avatar keeps their program design in-house after getting burned by an app design company early on, and it shows.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35494 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 6:16 am to
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If you take up a ketogenic lifestyle your cravings will disappear.
I'm convinced that if someone asked you for your opinion on the best all-weather tires that you'd recommend keto.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:02 am to
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I recommend taking up lifting regardless, but you certainly don't have to if you don't want to.


I'm trying to take this slow, as hopefully slow and methodical means it will stick and I won't dump it first time the going gets tough. So, right now, I'm focusing on walking. Next week, I want to add some nightly ab exercises in. Joining a gym / fitness center and lifting is something I want to do, but I feel like I need to train my brain to dedicate time each day for exercise before I sign a gym contract. Does that make sense?

I feel like i need to make some significant changes in my diet, which I am doing. I don't want to try too many different things at once.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 9:27 am to
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feel like I need to train my brain to dedicate time each day for exercise before I sign a gym contract. Does that make sense?


Absolutely. That is what I always recommend to people who are sedentary and wanting to get in better shape. You should to make exercise just an engrained part of your life, regardless of what it is. Starting out with walks is a great way to start making time to exercise.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99045 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:36 pm to
For what it’s worth, when I lost weight before using an app like MyFitnessPal to count calories helped me adjust my portions and helped keep me accountable. It helped me make healthier caloric choices so that I wasn’t starving throughout the day. Later, you can adjust your macros/micros to deal with plateaus.

Just remember you can’t outwork how you eat. And it helps to keep it simple to start.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15554 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 2:15 pm to
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lost weight before using an app like MyFitnessPal to count calories


Absolutely. But you MUST double check the foods you eat against other sources to ensure the proper calories are being used. You have to be sure to measure properly (I typically use cooked weight vs raw), and use the same food entry each time because they vary.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99045 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 2:50 pm to
Yeah sometimes it takes some leg work but they do a pretty good job in hitting a caloric range. I generally tried to go with “verified” stuff.

It’s a good jumping off point to help the OP adjust to portion control and appropriate caloric intake. It’s much easier to maintain healthier habits when you ease into changes and it’s an easier one.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 2:59 pm to
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generally tried to go with “verified” stuff.



Even then, the green check mark means jack.

It means that all of the nutrition information is filled in, including vitamins and minerals. That's it. There's no verification.

If you find an entry that's too good to be true...odds are it is.


The Carbon app uses the FatSecret database, which I believe is largely just the USDA database. Where MFP gets it wrong is allowing user-created entries to be in their database.
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