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re: CrossFit open thread

Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Yup




I saw his lifting stats and I saw '63' for pullups. It breaks my heart because I know those aren't real.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:47 pm to
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They are the nicest people too. They make you feel like you've known them for years.

I find myself hanging around after we are done. Never thought I would do that. There's no one there I don't like. Now, there are a few that simply do not talk, but that doesn't bother me.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I saw his lifting stats and I saw '63' for pullups. It breaks my heart because I know those aren't real.


Because they are kipping or butterfly?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Because they are kipping or butterfly?


I don't know what a butterfly pull up is but don't be calling everything a "pull up." If it's a kipping pullup, say it's a kipping pullup.

That's like calling quarter squats a squat and saying it counts.

PS. Just looked up butterfly pullups and I almost gagged.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 1:14 pm to
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I don't know what a butterfly pull up is but don't be calling everything a "pull up." If it's a kipping pullup, say it's a kipping pullup.

No. if you mean strict pull up, say strict pull up.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:26 pm to
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That's like calling quarter squats a squat and saying it counts.




It's a different kind of pull-up. I agree they should differentiate between what kind of pull-up they're talking about but pretty much everyone that does Crossfit knows they mean kipping or butterfly. It's kind of like trying to pass off a sumo deadlift for a regular deadlift. The reason people do butterfly or kipping pull-ups is it's easier to do a higher volume done faster.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:31 pm to
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It's kind of like trying to pass off a sumo deadlift for a regular deadlift.
I'm still unclear on this. I much prefer Sumo. This was totally allowed in powerlifting, so I don't see the similarity to kipping pullups. I ask every time, and sometimes I'm told I can do them, and sometimes not. This will happen again today, twice.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:33 pm to
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I don't see the similarity to kipping pullups


I'm no powerlifter but from my experience you can lift more doing sumo. Same with kipping.

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I ask every time, and sometimes I'm told I can do them, and sometimes not. This will happen again today, twice.



Are you talking about pullups or deadlift?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:35 pm to
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I'm no powerlifter but from my experience you can lift more doing sumo. Same with kipping.
True, but with the deadlifts, you are still simply lifting the weight from the ground to a finish point. Kipping involves a weight/momentum advantage.

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Are you talking about pullups or deadlift?

Deadlift. Pullups are always crystal clear. If they mean strict, they say strict.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 2:42 pm to
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rue, but with the deadlifts, you are still simply lifting the weight from the ground to a finish point. Kipping involves a weight/momentum advantage.


I understand that. I'm just saying that doing a 350 sumo is not the same as a regular deadlift just like a kipping pull-up is not the same as a strict. In both cases, sumo DL and kipping PU, you're going to do more than the standard version.

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Deadlift. Pullups are always crystal clear. If they mean strict, they say strict.


Where I workout and the programming I follow they specifically say sumo DL if that is what you're suppose to be doing. There are some people where I go that exclusively do Sumo DL because regular DL hurts their backs.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:10 pm to
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I'm just saying that doing a 350 sumo is not the same as a regular deadlift just like a kipping pull-up is not the same as a strict. In both cases, sumo DL and kipping PU, you're going to do more than the standard version.

I just don't see the similarity, especially when either regular or Sumo is allowed in powerlifting, yet not everyone does Sumo.

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regular DL hurts their backs.

I'm in this group, and I have something going on this weekend to where I really don't need a sore back. That's why I'm bit hesitant to do today's deal without either doing Sumo, or just going way lighter than usual because there is a ton of DL in the workout. It's in both A and B.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:16 pm to
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I'm in this group, and I have something going on this weekend to where I really don't need a sore back. That's why I'm bit hesitant to do today's deal without either doing Sumo, or just going way lighter than usual because there is a ton of DL in the workout. It's in both A and B.


If I were you I would just do sumo or drop weigth, whichever one you want. You pay to go there and it's your body that is feeling the effects. They'll get over it.
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm no powerlifter but from my experience you can lift more doing sumo. Same with kipping.



Entirely depends on your body structure and mechanics. I lift way more conventional. Like.. 100lbs more.

Sumo is a variation, and some people perform better with sumo, but not all. Kipping is a way to lessen the load on muscles required for the movement so you can either a) perform a higher volume or b) work your way into strict pullups.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:59 pm to
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'm no powerlifter but from my experience you can lift more doing sumo.


Not true. I don't believe there is one 1000lb sumo puller.

eta. nvm Chris Duffin did it. Either way, there are more conventional than sumo.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I'm in this group, and I have something going on this weekend to where I really don't need a sore back.


I can pull way more in sumo without a belt than conventional without a belt. I'm naturally better at sumo. I think I can deadlift more with conventional but my technique has to be on point or I get back pain.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:08 pm to
I have extremely short arms. Conventional just has me in such a low position that it's really tough for me to maintain a good position as I begin the lift.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 4:52 pm to
biomechanically you should be stronger conventionally.

I like conventional as weight gets heavier. I can use the weight to pull myself down into a better position and set my back.

I can’t fathom a 1000 pound lift. Did 433 for 3 today and couldn’t have done 440
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:36 am to
what we got coming out the hopper tonight boys?!

I predict 7 minutes max burpees, or some God awful dumbbell movement like those dumbbell cleans last year with dumbbell lunges.

I dont think it will be a variation of muscle ups or anything else that excludes a lot of folks from Rxing.

Posted by TigerDeacon
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:53 am to
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7 minutes max burpees,


I keep seeing a lot of people predicting that.

I also keep seeing a lot of chatter about a repeat of 14.1



AMRAP in 10 minutes
30 Double-Unders
15 Power Snatches (75/55 lb)

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:23 pm to
would love to do 14.1 again. That was my first open wod. Could only do single dubs occasionally. It was a long 10 minutes to get 46 reps!
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