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re: Best way to put on size quickly?

Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by King Crab
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:22 pm to
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Are you hitting muscle groups once or twice a week? I didn’t realize I needed twice a week.


I hit them twice a week, but I typically go 3x5 with heavy weight.

For instance, on the bench I normally rep out at 245. I could probably push more than 275 for my max, but I hate asking people to spot me.
Posted by King Crab
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:24 pm to
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I’m gonna risk the downvotes and say that, in your early 40’s, you’re better off trying to get lean and focus on strength.


I don't want to look like a body builder, but I see people in the gym lifting way less weight than I am and they are much bigger than me. At least more proportioned.
Posted by King Crab
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:25 pm to
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Take whatever you've been doing and do the opposite. If you've been primarily focusing in the 1-4 rep range for strength, switch to 8-12 rep range.


How many sets of 8-12 reps should I be doing?
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:59 pm to
I guess depends on how much time you’re putting in. Maybe 3-4 sets or something. Have you ever followed an actual workout program?
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:17 pm to
Ice cream and fried chicken.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:21 pm to
Like someone else said, I would not recommend “bulking” for a 45 year old. Do you go to the gym and just dick around or are you following a program? If not start a linear progression program. The fact that you have strong legs will only help with everything else. Don’t take time away from legs and back for the sake of a “bigger” upper body. It will come if you progress.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

I don't want to look like a body builder, but I see people in the gym lifting way less weight than I am and they are much bigger than me. At least more proportioned.


Why does that matter?
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:53 pm to
Oof, lsu come back. You’re needed in this thread
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:53 pm to
I've been doing 531 for a few months, not necessarily trying to get bigger, just to try something different. I've gained some size,enough for me to notice.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:25 pm to
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typically go 3x5 with heavy weight.


One thing I've learned following the PPSA Squatober plan, is that I didn't know anywhere near enough of what I was doing.

If you want to gain size, you have to lift weight, but it doesn't always have to be heavy weight.

I would suggest you go to the Pen and Paper Strength APP (it is not really an app) website and look at some of his plans. You will gain muscle if you run one of his programs.
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:09 am to
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I don't want to look like a body builder


I also just want to be 100% clear here: you will NEVER look like a bodybuilder. You could shoot as much test/tren/whatever and still not look anywhere close to a bodybuilder. Those guys would be freaks in a gym without the enhancements - they're genetic anomalies similar to a basketball player being 6'10" is a genetic anomaly.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:35 am to
you are only going to put on muscle aso fast.

but in general

-tons of protein- think 1.5g per lbs to make sure you are eating enough. all from whole foods with mainly eggs and beef

- sounds liek you ahve been lifting for strength more than anything....so do more volume and more frequency

- extreme stretching


so if its really more arms you are looking for...we are doing arm farm in novermber by ppsa, if you eat i promise you will put lots of size on.

from there, choose the ppsa upper body focused programs


then on top of that, switch out variants to focus more arms

i.e. bench press--> to close grip bench or reverse bench or dips

--> rows to underhand rows

--> pullups to chins and rope climbs.

also hit frequency method chins. look it up. build the volume to crazy amount and you will put on tons of bicep size.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:46 am to
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I also just want to be 100% clear here: you will NEVER look like a bodybuilder


I want to be 100% clear here - this is just wrong.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:24 am to
Sounds like a great candidate for my revolutionary FAFO program. Results guaranteed.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:11 am to
McDonald’s
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:15 am to
Go heavier and hit every set to failure. You’ll be wiped at the end of the workout. And eat more. 4000 calories a day of you can stomach it.

Eta: or just do a steroid cycle for a short cut
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 10:16 am
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:53 am to
If this guy is having to ask an online forum how to gain size, I think it's pretty safe to say that this guy does not have the genetic potential to be the size of a bodybuilder..
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I hit them twice a week, but I typically go 3x5 with heavy weight.

For instance, on the bench I normally rep out at 245. I could probably push more than 275 for my max, but I hate asking people to spot me.


Try doing a low rep day and a high rep day.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 2:48 pm to
As someone in late 40s, I’d caution against taking it to failure every exercise (or even every workout). You don’t recover like a 20 year old, and injuries have the way of derailing progress for a long time.

As for eating in a big surplus, if you’ve been lifting for long enough to bench 275+ then you probably can only gain 0.5- maybe 1lb of lean mass a month. All the rest of that excess is going to fat, which at some point you’re going to have to lose. As someone who just spent 9 months losing 25lbs of fat after a poorly executed bulk, I wouldn’t recommend it.

There’s a lot of physique improvement that ANYBODY can realize before genetic limitations come into play. Also barbell bench press is awesome, but it’s not the best exercise for growing your upper body size. I’d personally suggest a program that focuses more on traps, lats, rows to make your upper back bigger, db press (flat and incline) and flies to grow chest, and lat/rear felt raises with db shoulder press to grow your shoulders.

I really do think Arm Farm in Brovember would tick all those boxes from a programming standpoint
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 3:40 pm to
Don't know the arm farm program but I agree 100% with the rest of your post.

I had to reframe what lifting and excercise means at 48 years old with a long list of injuries. I found ways to do it that don't hurt. I want to be able to do strength training into my 70s. No way I could lift the way i did before without getting injured or exacerbating my existing injuries. I want to avoid anymore surgeries at all cost. I don't need to be as big or as strong as I used to be but I can still be pretty damn fit and strong enough for my age. I take a long term view now. Not about getting Jacked af in 4 weeks, but thinking if I consistently lift the right way and don't get hurt I've got years of progress ahead.
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