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Annual physical: my doctor told me about fish oils
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:28 pm
I’ve been taking fish oils for a few years now. Anyway, my doctor tells me today that fish oils are essentially useless and aren’t producing any results that aren’t being seen using a placebo.
He also informed me that in the last 3 studies, it’s been shown to significantly increase the risk of prostate cancer for men.
Opinions on this?
He also informed me that in the last 3 studies, it’s been shown to significantly increase the risk of prostate cancer for men.
Opinions on this?
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:30 pm to TDcline
That goes against what many believe is the one thing we should take every day.
I’d do more research on it.
I’d do more research on it.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:23 pm to TDcline
After a certain age, prostate cancer almost becomes inevitable for some men. I doubt fish oil is going to make a significant decision difference.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:05 am to TDcline
Just make sure it's fresh and a good source (research and compare to krill oil--i've read conflicting things, but I believe krill oil is slower to oxidize and has more of the antioxidant astaxanthin to avoid oxidation.
The average person takes in way too much omega 6 fatty acids (via shitty veggie and soybean oils, peanuts, etc) and omega 3s help offset the inflammatory effects of that overabundance.
If you don't eat much omega 6, and/or you eat a ton of salmon, tuna, omega-3 enriched eggs, and the like (note, flax and chia have very little bioavailable omega 3, despite the advertised high levels), then i agree with your doctor.
The average person takes in way too much omega 6 fatty acids (via shitty veggie and soybean oils, peanuts, etc) and omega 3s help offset the inflammatory effects of that overabundance.
If you don't eat much omega 6, and/or you eat a ton of salmon, tuna, omega-3 enriched eggs, and the like (note, flax and chia have very little bioavailable omega 3, despite the advertised high levels), then i agree with your doctor.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:20 am to TDcline
quote:
He also informed me that in the last 3 studies, it’s been shown to significantly increase the risk of prostate cancer for men.
Opinions on this?
True. You should stop taking fish oil supplements. You should also avoid multivitamins with Zinc in them for the same reason.
In fact, the entire topic of supplements is complicated. Unlike the supplements sold in Germany, vitamins and supplements in the United States are essentially unregulated. You have no idea if what you are buying contains what the label says, if it does contain what is claimed what the concentrations are, and what sort of fillers and binders are used.
The advertising is more sophisticated these days, but the product can only be a half step from the tonics sold in the old west.
The consumption of fish oil is a complicated topic. Even if you're eating fish instead of taking a supplement, the topic is complicated.
LINK
Then there's the chance of getting Ciguatera poisoning from eating large predatory tropical reef fish.
As far as eating fish, as a general rule I'd recommend only eating wild-caught fresh and saltwater fish from northern climates.
Under no circumstance should you buy or eat fish that are products of China. Also beware for prepackaged breaded fillets that may contain Chinese fish that are packaged domestically.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:34 am to Boatshoes
quote:Why is this? Tell me more.
You should also avoid multivitamins with Zinc in them for the same reason.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:20 am to TDcline
quote:
risk of prostate cancer for men.
fish oils cause cancer
tobacco cause cancer
alcohol cause cancer
artifical sweetener cause cancer
preservatives in food causes cancer
etc, etc, etc
Bottom line they have no fricking clue what cause cancer or there would be no cancer.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:32 am to Boatshoes
quote:
The consumption of fish oil is a complicated topic. Even if you're eating fish instead of taking a supplement, the topic is complicated.
LINK
Your link is about mass-farmed tilapia. I don't eat tialpia at all and stick to wild-caught fish, but I'm not seeing how your link complicates fish-eating generally.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:53 am to TDcline
I take em for my joints
it works along with healthy eating to reduce inflammation.
it works along with healthy eating to reduce inflammation.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:56 pm to McLemore
quote:
Your link is about mass-farmed tilapia. I don't eat tialpia at all and stick to wild-caught fish, but I'm not seeing how your link complicates fish-eating generally.
it doesn't and just as he is fear mongering with the unregulated supplement comment. Supplements don't need to be regulated at all, people need to not be stupid and do their own research on companies and ask to see a third party lab test of the current batch. go ask somebody like truenutrition for a lab test and they will send it right over.
Government doesn't need to protect us from ourselves, need to be self sufficient and protect ourselves. In todays age, information is a google search away.
as far as taking fish oil OP, your doctor is wrong imo. as stated we as Americans eat way too much omega 6. this causes inflammation, omega 3's taken to balance this out helps.
there is no controversy over this, fresh wild caught fish is one of the best foods you can eat. Same with high quality fish oils, I prefer getting a prescription for the ethyl ester version.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:50 pm to lsu777
The fish oils are high in Omega 3’s and are anti-inflammatory to the arterial wall of your arteries. Most cardiologist actually recommend their patients take it daily, unless there is some new research I don’t know about. Did have a friend in medical school study the Omega 3 break down process and I remember when he discussed Eskimos, how they didn’t have any heart disease, but they did develop and die of cancers...So, maybe there’s some advantages/disadvantages..
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:58 pm to Boatshoes
quote:
Then there's the chance of getting Ciguatera poisoning from eating large predatory tropical reef fish.
Stop.
You have no idea what you're talking about
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:03 am to McLemore
quote:
but I'm not seeing how your link complicates fish-eating generally.
Hi!
I'm a scientist.
Eating fish from wild sources is an interesting topic.
1. The biggest up the food chain the better tasting, more caloric rich, and better in renewal fats, etc....generally.
2. Highest up the food chain also means more
B I O A C C U M U L A T I O N
Of everything. But mostly we're talking about pesticides, hormone mimic chemicals, and heavy metals
3. Wasp waist systems tend to have both of those in higher extremes
4. Cigutara and other secondary toxicities actually have little to do with the fish and more with dinoflagellates, bacteria, and other phytoplankton. These can be easily avoided.
Happy to provide more info 9f need.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 5:05 pm to oleyeller
I don’t want cancer
Now you have me worried
Now you have me worried
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:21 am to lsu777
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lsu777
Where would you suggest I go for accurate information on supplements? A google search brings out a ton of websites, but I’m not always sure what is valid. I just bought a bottle of CLA 369. I should have done better research before I bought it, but after reading this thread, maybe I should do more. But so far I have not found anyone saying I should not take them.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/17/18 at 8:28 pm to DeafJam73
Cla is fine just won't do much unless injectable for fat loss.
As far as where to go, really just have to research and cut through the BS.
As far as where to go, really just have to research and cut through the BS.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 9:07 pm to TDcline
I just did a quick search on pub med to see if I could find the studies he referenced. I only looked for the last fifteen minutes, but nothing popped out at me supporting his claims. There were 41 pages on Fish Oils and Camcer, so it’s plausible they were farther down. I did notice that most were trying to prove the benefits of supplementing with fish oils as opposed to the cancer causing aspects though. Also, every single book on paleo or functional medicine has recommended taking omega 3’s, krill oil, or cod liver oil. This is the first time I’m hearing of the supplement in a negative light. Now, I am sure quality matters. Do research on a quality supplement, make sure the bottle is dark tinted and doesn’t include additional vegetable oils in the capsule. It’s also probably a good idea to store in the refrigerator as polyunsaturated fats tend to oxidize easily.
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