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re: America can't get enough protein- diary industry can't keep up

Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Walk you through why the body needs both dietary carbs and fats?

You need one or the other for energy but not both. This is very basic stuff. Go sit in the corner in time out and come back after you have thought about this.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:19 pm to
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You need one or the other for energy but not both. This is very basic stuff. Go sit in the corner in time out and come back after you have thought about this.




The hubris is amazing. You think they are only used for energy and nothing else? Good lord your understanding of the human body is amazing if you think that is all they are used for.

So, let me ask you this then, do you think that dietary carbs can do all the same things in your body that dietary fats do?

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Good lord your understanding of the human body is amazing if you think that is all they are used for.

What exactly am I missing by not ingesting carbohydrates? Let me guess you also think I need 30 grams of fiber a day as well? You are almost too stupid to even converse with on this.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:27 pm to
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So, let me ask you this then, do you think that dietary carbs can do all the same things in your body that dietary fats do?


Dude has no idea about nutrition. But I think the more concerning thing is the people giving him upvotes.

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:29 pm to
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Dude has no idea about nutrition.

What am I missing about nutrition? Because I don't eat sweet potatoes?
What am I missing by avoiding carbohydrates/sugars?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:40 pm to
Bro you posted a PED stack that is as much if not more than some professionals are using and claimed you were nowhere near a pro.

I can qualify for nationals on 1/4th of that.

Its quite obvious your diet is trash and you have no idea how to manipulate food for body composition.



Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:43 pm to
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What exactly am I missing by not ingesting carbohydrates? Let me guess you also think I need 30 grams of fiber a day as well? You are almost too stupid to even converse with on this.




Simply incredible

I'll ask again, since you just ignored the question:

quote:

do you think that dietary carbs can do all the same things in your body that dietary fats do?

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:53 pm to
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Bro you posted a PED stack that is as much if not more than some professionals are using and claimed you were nowhere near a pro.

That 'stack' was from 2011 and isn't even close to what the pros are using not then and certainly not now.
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I can qualify for nationals on 1/4th of that.


Is that what your 'coach' told you?
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Its quite obvious your diet is trash and you have no idea how to manipulate food for body composition.

I competed as a teen and an adult and won actual shows here in Georgia. How many have you won? I am 46 years old and natty. How is eating beef, bacon, butter, and eggs, 'trash'?

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:55 pm to
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I'll ask again, since you just ignored the question:

No, I will ask you again - what am I missing out on by not eating carbohydrates?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:06 pm to
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No


Admitting you don't know the answer, bold choice.

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what am I missing out on by not eating carbohydrates?


I mean, i'd argue maybe some cognitive abilities based on this thread, but again, we are analyzing the statement that you made which was "you only need carbs or fats not both".

Core functions of dietary carbs that cannot be accomplished by fats would include building your genetic material. Proteins can be utilized to some degree for this function, but it is not efficient and you are diverting proteins from what they should be getting used for. Fueling red blood cells. They are completely dependent on carb breakdown for survival and are incapable of utilizing fats. Again, protein "can" help here but is another very inefficient source. Enabling ceullular idenity markers and communication. This is a sole function of carbs and one that cannot be done by either fats or proteins efficiently. Digestive prebiotic fiber. If you are going to sit here and try and argue your body doesn't need any fiber for long term health, then you've lost the plot.

There is a reason they are all recommended and you should have a balance of proteins, carbs, and fats. Most people, in America especially, consume way too many carbs than they need, as well as calories overall and definitely consume way too little protein. However all three, carbs, fats, and proteins have essential functions that only they can perform. While you can "survive" withouth one, that is not healthy long term advice. Seeing as this is a health/fitness board, trying to pass off statements like that as advice is folly.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:08 pm to
So, since I answered your question, how about you answer mine now.

quote:

do you think that dietary carbs can do all the same things in your body that dietary fats do?



You were the one that argued that you don't need fats, as you said "you only need carbs or fats not both". You are welcome to retract that statement if you'd like.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:22 pm to
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If you are going to sit here and try and argue your body doesn't need any fiber for long term health, then you've lost the plot.


Fiber is not an essential nutrient. Why aren't these people who have been eating carnivore, strict carnivore, BBB&E for oh I don't know 2,3,4,5 etc years sick? Why aren't they dying en masse?
Why am I and millions of others able to function without carbohydrates? Shouldn't I be sick? Dead? Your body needs fats or carbohydrates for energy but not both that isn't up for debate.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:25 pm to
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do you think that dietary carbs can do all the same things in your body that dietary fats do?


Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:27 pm to
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You were the one that argued that you don't need fats, as you said "you only need carbs or fats not both". You are welcome to retract that statement if you'd like.

You only need carbs or fats for energy not both. There is no debating that. Why would I retract that?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46568 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:44 pm to
*sigh*

There's no point.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 4:48 pm
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
305 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:53 pm to
You removed it because it's a nonsensical argument. 10k years ago you were lucky to live to age 30. Heart disease was not a concern. You ate whatever you could find.

I feel like some people on here think that carbohydrates are just sugar laden ultra processed foods. Fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, legumes, etc all contain carbohydrates and it's okay and even beneficial to eat them.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40073 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:03 pm to
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Well maybe if large corporations would stop consolidating small farms and putting small dairy farms out of business there just might be enough dairy.
Your idea is production is DOWN due to consolidation?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46568 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:43 pm to
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You removed it because it's a nonsensical argument


Nah, I removed it because of shite takes like this. Like I said there's no point.

But whatever makes you feel better I guess.
Posted by Gifman
Captiva, FL
Member since Jan 2021
19234 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:23 pm to
There’s some pretty dumb people that think your body can absorb unlimited amounts of protein
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16818 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:19 pm to
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Well maybe if large corporations would stop consolidating small farms and putting small dairy farms out of business there just might be enough dairy.
Your idea is production is DOWN due to consolidation?

As long as it is consensual, who cares?
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