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re: America can't get enough protein- diary industry can't keep up

Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:41 am to
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:41 am to
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In fact who is eating granola at all? its worthless and contains all kinds of awful chemicals it is sprayed with.


The average american


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Speaking of stupid...... I do not eat any carbs. I have plenty of energy because I only eat healthy fats. I do not need carbohydrates for 'energy' because I get them from various fats


Post your diet every day for the next month and we will see how true this is. But I'd guess you are either lying or binge once every few weeks
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:46 am to
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ronricks


Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread.

I also eat extremely low carb, and have plenty of energy when I lift. I'm also not taking enough gear a week to jack a clydesdale up though either.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 9:48 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:58 am to
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Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread.

I try.

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I also eat extremely low carb, and have plenty of energy when I lift.

Millions of people do I am not sure why this guy doesn't understand that. One needs carbs or fats but not both. You can pick. Some people may actually respond better to carbs as an energy source. Others may respond better to fats like I do. Not everyone is the same. You have to experiment. Its like he is oblivious to elimination diets and training which works for over 1 million people. Just prioritize protein and go from there.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:02 am to
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Post your diet every day for the next month and we will see how true this is. But I'd guess you are either lying or binge once every few weeks


What exactly would I be 'binging' on?

I'm lying about not eating or avoiding carbs which over a million Americans do on a daily basis? Why would I lie about something so trivial? Its not new. I eat 85/15 grass fed beef, ribeye steaks, Wright Brand bacon, butter and eggs., That is it. What is so unbelievable about that?
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:58 am to
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I eat 85/15 grass fed beef, ribeye steaks, Wright Brand bacon, butter and eggs., That is it. What is so unbelievable about that?


Not necessarily unbelievable. Just incredibly stupid. Can't imagine your lipid levels are in good shape.

But I did not come here to debate diet styles. The point of my original post was that the majority of Americans are already eating more than enough protein. Its the protein source selection that causes people to be fat.

And also you morons can downvote me all you want, but higher carb, moderate to low protein diets can be just as anabolic as your dumbass carnivore diet.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4353 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 10:59 am to
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I do not need carbohydrates for 'energy' because I get them from various fats.


You don't need carbs for energy because you probably don't do the types of sports/workouts that stress your energy production systems. I do 3-6-12 and 24 hour mountain bike races. I consume 60-90g of carbs per hours during a race just to keep from bonking. I eat as much shitty "unhealthy" food as I can get my hands on. I'm 50yo @ 160lbs 17% body fat from my last DEXA scan with a resting heart rate of 49. Just because you don't need carbs doesn't mean other types of athletes don't. But I would agree with you most people don't need much in the way of carbs.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:01 am to
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Not necessarily unbelievable. Just incredibly stupid. Can't imagine your lipid levels are in good shape.



You seem stuck in 1985. Maybe branch out a bit and do some actual research.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:05 am to
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You seem stuck in 1985. Maybe branch out a bit and do some actual research.



I bet you fap to liver king. Using the last PED protocols you have done as judgement, I have no doubt you are a moron.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:07 am to
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The point of my original post was that the majority of Americans are already eating more than enough protein. Its the protein source selection that causes people to be fat.


What causes people to be fat is processed foods loaded with sugars and carbohydrates aka the standard American diet not protein or fats.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:15 am to
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I bet you fap to liver king.

Do not pay him any attention.
If I were eating a bunch of fats and carbs together my lipids would indeed be awful like if I were to slam 3 pancakes, biscuits, sausage, eggs, and grits for breakfast.
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Using the last PED protocols you have done as judgement, I have no doubt you are a moron.

Using an androgen, an anabolic, an oral and hGH is moronic? That's benign compared to what people are doing today. Child's play.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46568 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:16 am to
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moderate to low protein diets can be just as anabolic


Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:19 am to
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oral


Point proven
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11236 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:04 pm to
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What causes people to be fat is processed foods loaded with sugars and carbohydrates aka the standard American diet not protein or fats.


The idiocy

Sugars are carbohydrates. Forgot chips, oreos, donuts, amongst other processed foods have zero fat in them.

Any sort of food eaten in excess will make you fat.

Its harder to become fat eating lean protein and complex carbs because you can intake more volume for less calories.

I can have 96/4 beef and a sweet potato for less calories than your 85/15 beef and eggs
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:30 pm to
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What causes people to be fat is processed foods loaded with sugars and carbohydrates aka the standard American diet not protein or fats.


You seem to be missing a very crucial piece of information to make this statement valid.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:46 pm to
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I do not eat any carbs.


Dumb.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:52 pm to
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ETA: Protein is also overrated. Carbs are going to do as much if not more for building muscle. You just have to move to put them to use. I went from eating about 250g-275g of protein a day to 200g and I'm in the best shape I've ever been in


Well, this is just silly
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:56 pm to
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Keep in mind you only need carbs or fats not both.


Dumb. This thread really has some winners

Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:08 pm to
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Dumb. This thread really has some winners

Walk us through how it is dumb. Enlighten us.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41514 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:14 pm to
Walk you through why the body needs both dietary carbs and fats?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Its harder to become fat eating lean protein and complex carbs because you can intake more volume for less calories.

Who eats for 'volume'? What is the point in that? I simply eat until I am full. I don't measure anything out. Don't have to as I could never eat enough steak in a day to make me fat. Same for eggs. Same for bacon.

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