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re: 39, Avid Weight Lifter, Total T 162
Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:51 pm to LemmyLives
Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:51 pm to LemmyLives
Excellent point Lemmy. That’s where I am
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Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:54 pm to BRBro
quote:Thanks man. I’ve been busting arse since March 2023 to get where I am and I spend way more time than I should reading shite about HRT & peptides
Jack- I don’t post often, but I do respect your opinion and especially since I have seen your before and after pics. You seem to have a grasp of things. You have done some great work. What is your age range? You and 777 seem pretty knowledgeable
It’s something I’m pretty passionate about since it 100% transformed my life. I’m 41 and In the best shape I’ve ever been In.Posted on 3/22/26 at 7:55 pm to BoudinChicot
quote:Same here. She doesn’t drop my T but she’s sure as hell turning my beard gray.
have a 2 year old daughter, so that tracks.
Boudin… Chicot.. pretty sure we’re from the same area you and I.
This post was edited on 3/22/26 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:03 pm to Uncle JackD
Hell yeah baw, God's country.
I appreciate all the advice everybody. I figured I'd get on TRT one day when I was in my 50's but here we are.
I'll update this thread with how things turn out.
I appreciate all the advice everybody. I figured I'd get on TRT one day when I was in my 50's but here we are.
I'll update this thread with how things turn out.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:33 pm to BRBro
I didn't start having kids until I was 35. A lot of y'all have them younger, but I got the T kick in the balls repeatedly at exactly the wrong time caused by kids (and a Latina wife).
No amount of grass fed beef, omega-3 eggs, grass fed milk, BJJ and powerlifting can fix what happens to your mood and your body when your T craters. We just fool ourselves that if we cold plunge, or hit the sauna, take peptides or whatever, it'll fix it. It won't. A handful of people will react to this stuff, but we're genpop for the most part.
No amount of grass fed beef, omega-3 eggs, grass fed milk, BJJ and powerlifting can fix what happens to your mood and your body when your T craters. We just fool ourselves that if we cold plunge, or hit the sauna, take peptides or whatever, it'll fix it. It won't. A handful of people will react to this stuff, but we're genpop for the most part.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 9:48 pm to LemmyLives
I was about the same age as you when I had kids. I’m much older now. But it seems like whole TRT and peptide thing is fairly recent. I’m looking forward to some TRT, me
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:27 pm to BRBro
TRT is commoditized now, and fairly cheap. If you're not afraid of injecting yourself (just relax, you barely feel it,) and avoiding clinic visits 2x a week, etc. Get a sharps container, choose a different arse cheek to inject in each time, and do it.
Peptides I have no positive things to say. The excuse is that there is always a different stack of BPC-157 or some other shite you're supposed to have done, but it just doesn't seem to actually do anything. Serious placebo vibes from the group (and me) that have tried them. Maybe they do something, but not for me.
Make sure your wife is ready for what happens when you turn back into a 22 year old in bed with TRT. To be honest, I'm far worse now than I was back then. I'm close to 50, and it's, uh, extremely active.
Peptides I have no positive things to say. The excuse is that there is always a different stack of BPC-157 or some other shite you're supposed to have done, but it just doesn't seem to actually do anything. Serious placebo vibes from the group (and me) that have tried them. Maybe they do something, but not for me.
Make sure your wife is ready for what happens when you turn back into a 22 year old in bed with TRT. To be honest, I'm far worse now than I was back then. I'm close to 50, and it's, uh, extremely active.
Posted on 3/22/26 at 10:34 pm to LemmyLives
When I say peptides for me it’s just GLPs. I lost 100 lbs over the last few years. Pretty good stuff
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:33 am to BoudinChicot
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I'm 5'9 215 could be leaner but I'm not baw built
Yes, you could be a lot leaner. Losing weight would help.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:50 am to LemmyLives
quote:eh you’re partially right. Allot of the peptides are snake oil but there’s some that do help tremendously. GLP, GH, BPC/TB (debatable), and secretagogues are pretty damn proven. I’ve never used the mitochondria ones but they are gaining traction and SS31 was actually recently FDA approved so I guess it had good results in studies.
Peptides I have no positive things to say. The excuse is that there is always a different stack of BPC-157 or some other shite you're supposed to have done, but it just doesn't seem to actually do anything. Serious placebo vibes from the group (and me) that have tried them. Maybe they do something, but not for me.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:02 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, you could be a lot leaner. Losing weight would help.
That was my first thought as well. 215 at 5’9 is pretty big and most likely a high body fat level.
OP - How well do you sleep? Drink alcohol? Smoke? Stress?
T levels that low most likely warrant TRT, but I would try every natural solution first before going on it.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:52 am to LemmyLives
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Make sure your wife is ready for what happens when you turn back into a 22 year old in bed with TRT. To be honest, I'm far worse now than I was back then. I'm close to 50, and it's, uh, extremely active.
Agreed. OP, I was feeling just like you are now. Total T was 253 ng/dL in March of '25. As of this past Feb., my level is 877. Feel like a new man and I wish I would have started treatment a few years earlier. I'm 44 now, had kids is my mid 30's and had been dragging arse the last few years. No energy, no sex drive, no desire to work out. Felt like shite. My doctor wasn't interested in treating because I was at the bottom of what they considered a normal range so I went to a rejuvime clinic and got checked out and on a treatment plan.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:25 am to StringedInstruments
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That was my first thought as well. 215 at 5’9 is pretty big and most likely a high body fat level.
im sure he is 23-25% at that weight but at those levels....doesnt matter, will not help much. might get him to 250 and then maybe the supplements might get him to 300. waste of time imo
better off getting on trt at those levels, focus on cutting with the new energy you will get from the test.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:36 am to StringedInstruments
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That was my first thought as well. 215 at 5’9 is pretty big and most likely a high body fat level.
Yeah I was thinking this as well. I was around 25% BF (I fell off hard when the gyms closed for covid lockdown) when I started TRT. My levels were around the same. It really kicked my arse into gear to get in shape, though. I got off of TRT last June and kept up the good habits. My levels are around 600 now.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:40 pm to lsu777
Last time I used one of those smart scales I was around 19 percent, top abs are visible, havent seen bottom abs since Les Miles was coaching the Tigers.
Dont smoke, drink maybe 2 or 3 times a year. Sleep duration is usually 7 hr but I dont get much deep sleep at all according to the Garmin. Sleep score usually in the 70s-80s.
Like I said in OP im sure I could dial it in more and lose 10 lb or so but my diet is pretty clean and I do cardio 2-3x a week. All my numbers are good, BP, Cholesterol, RHR etc
I think im just lucky that I've been able to maintain foundational muscle mass with whatever is going on. Ive lifted 3-4x a week pretty consistently for over 25 years. Recovery started going to shite so I adapted from heavy training to failure to more volume in 12 rep range and thats helped with recovery and joints some. Just want to get back to feeling like a beast again.
Dont smoke, drink maybe 2 or 3 times a year. Sleep duration is usually 7 hr but I dont get much deep sleep at all according to the Garmin. Sleep score usually in the 70s-80s.
Like I said in OP im sure I could dial it in more and lose 10 lb or so but my diet is pretty clean and I do cardio 2-3x a week. All my numbers are good, BP, Cholesterol, RHR etc
I think im just lucky that I've been able to maintain foundational muscle mass with whatever is going on. Ive lifted 3-4x a week pretty consistently for over 25 years. Recovery started going to shite so I adapted from heavy training to failure to more volume in 12 rep range and thats helped with recovery and joints some. Just want to get back to feeling like a beast again.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:14 pm to BoudinChicot
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Recovery started going to shite so I adapted from heavy training to failure to more volume in 12 rep range and thats helped with recovery and joints some.
Were you tracking volume with both? Just tracking reps and sets doesn't tell you as much as total volume. I haven't done 12 reps of anything for 20 years, except for the recovery I'm going through now. But, I still tracked over 30k pounds a day with no recovery issue (mid 30s.)
Everyone's mental model is different, but dropping to 12 reps in terms of weight (to me) removes all incentive from "I'm going to F this up, Metallica louder, RRR!" I don't think you get the same mental pump that you do from 5/3/1, etc.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 7:46 pm to LemmyLives
I just included a number as a guideline, I mostly go off of feel, 2-3 working sets per movement, 3-4 movements per body part. When the mind-muscle starts to fade i know im good on that movement.
Before I started feeling like my shite was falling apart, the working sets on my compounds would be in the 6-10 rep range, at or near failure. As an example, pyramid up to 100s on db incline, 2 working sets of 8-10.
Now that I apparently have no nuts and I wasnt feeling recovered anymore, nagging joint pain, I've changed the working sets to 12-15 rep range and dropped the weight some (75s in the case of incline). Body feels good but man I miss going heavy.
Before I started feeling like my shite was falling apart, the working sets on my compounds would be in the 6-10 rep range, at or near failure. As an example, pyramid up to 100s on db incline, 2 working sets of 8-10.
Now that I apparently have no nuts and I wasnt feeling recovered anymore, nagging joint pain, I've changed the working sets to 12-15 rep range and dropped the weight some (75s in the case of incline). Body feels good but man I miss going heavy.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:40 pm to BoudinChicot
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I mostly go off of feel, 2-3 working sets per movement, 3-4 movements per body part
This is totally foreign to me. Every week, I know exactly what I'm doing, weight and reps (dynamic or max effort) when I start the 8 ish week cycle (5x5 of 65%, etc). I write the week down in a Rocketbook notebook, and don't have to wonder about a thing. It says 85% is XXXx3, I do.
But, one thing that's kept me injury free (current injury is not from working out) is to warm up like a basic bitch. Bar. Bar +5% (of 1RM). Bar +10%, Bar +15%, Bar +20%, etc. until you get to work sets (exception for DL and squat), DL it's 135-225-315-365-405 (belt practice), and then it's on. You develop the groove, you perfect what your shoulders and elbows need to do, etc. It looks ridiculous on bench, but if you take 60 seconds in between sets to load the bar, it's doable easily. And, it reinforces proper form with 45lbs, etc.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:13 pm to LemmyLives
Different ways to skin a cat for sure.
I'd be more disengaged if I went at it with that much calculation, but have mad respect for folks who keep detailed records. I just roll with what my body can do that day with a rough framework in mind and that has worked well for me. I've been doing this so long that I can pretty much feel when I've stimulated enough vs. overtraining. Even with the low T I feel ok while I'm in the gym, its the energy dump afterward and long recovery now. Definitely excited to up the intensity again once I can get on the right TRT plan and get through the doctor gauntlet.
I've also recently incorporated more stretching with light weight, and doing a smaller movement to pre-exhaust before moving to compounds. I used to always start with compounds straight away, pyramiding up. Luckily never had a major gym injury. I started getting shoulder impingement from flat bench and dropped that many years ago. I do a very dumbbell and cable focused routine (chest/biceps; shoulders/triceps; back/abs), and legs centered on hack squat and machines. Also hammer out a lot of Peloton for legs/cardio.
Would post pic but even removing my face I'm terrified of being doxxed and my shitposting on here somehow getting tied back to me irl.
I'd be more disengaged if I went at it with that much calculation, but have mad respect for folks who keep detailed records. I just roll with what my body can do that day with a rough framework in mind and that has worked well for me. I've been doing this so long that I can pretty much feel when I've stimulated enough vs. overtraining. Even with the low T I feel ok while I'm in the gym, its the energy dump afterward and long recovery now. Definitely excited to up the intensity again once I can get on the right TRT plan and get through the doctor gauntlet.
I've also recently incorporated more stretching with light weight, and doing a smaller movement to pre-exhaust before moving to compounds. I used to always start with compounds straight away, pyramiding up. Luckily never had a major gym injury. I started getting shoulder impingement from flat bench and dropped that many years ago. I do a very dumbbell and cable focused routine (chest/biceps; shoulders/triceps; back/abs), and legs centered on hack squat and machines. Also hammer out a lot of Peloton for legs/cardio.
Would post pic but even removing my face I'm terrified of being doxxed and my shitposting on here somehow getting tied back to me irl.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:40 am to BoudinChicot
quote:
I figured I'd get on TRT one day when I was in
At 42 my T was at 170. Got on shortly thereafter and I'm still doing weekly injections today, at age 73. Life changer! Still in the gym five days a week and now that I started 10 (2x5) creatine several months ago I feel amazing!
All aspects of your life will change for the better, believe the old man my friend.
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