re: The pandemic made golf more popular.

I picked up the clubs after not playing for 15 years

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People should play ready golf. While the other guy is hitting you should be getting your yardage and club selected and be ready to go. Same on the greens. Those simple things reduce time of a round a good bit.

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I'm not thinking about this little bit of slowdown when discussing this topic. You're talking seconds... I'm talking minutes per hole.

I'm talking about being behind a group of players that play slow and that takes 7/8 shots to get to every green after looking for OB balls 5 minutes about every hole.

Maybe I'm thinking the extreme case, but I've been behind groups like this and it's annoying as hell.

I believe sitting around waiting between shots kills your rhythm and brings down you game a bit.

I played Sunday at a $75 tee time public course. 4 some in front of us had one guy that on a par three took 8 practice swings, stood behind his ball to line up, hovered over it about 10 seconds and then laid sod over it and moved the ball 20 feet.

He reloaded and redid his whole routine.

That's what slows golf down. If you aren't chasing your ball around you aren't going to be slow if you have a reasonable preshot routine.

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If there are 2 holes open in front of a group, they are playing slow and are out of position.

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This is just wrong

was is stated the expeceted pace of play before your round started by a member of the course staff? if so, what was stated?

Please show me where is states that hole position dictates the rate at which a couse should be played. If group A is playing the course at an average of 2 hours per 9, they are on good pace. If group B is playing faster than group A, then yes they should have let the group behind play through but it is up to the members of group A to make that call.

If the two holes are open in front of the "slow" group and they are on pace for a 4 hour round of golf, sit back and enjoy your seat cushion because I would not have said a word if they are on a good hourly pace of play!

If I got two holes in front of me open and am holding someone up, I will always let someone through( rarely happens bc we play fast) but I expect the same from others no matter what pace they are on

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You forcing them to play slow is just as disruptive to someone's game as them speeding you up.

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While you are looking at your round of golf through a periscope and all you have to focus on is you and your foursome, the golf staff has to ensure that EVERYONE on the course is playing at a decent pace and you cannot have one marshal dedicated to each group.

If the group 2 holes behind is holding up the entire course that is a different discussion and one that I would be glad to take up with the slow players. If you deem the group slow that does not mean the course sees that the same way. Gettin agrivated that a course personnel isn't doing anything because you see a group holding you up is millenial thinking that you have more rights to a course because you think it "shouldn't take this long"

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Gettin agrivated that a course personnel isn't doing anything because you see a group holding you up is millenial thinking

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So dumb. Getting annoyed with having to wait on the group in front of you has been around since I played with my dad and his boomer friends when I was 10 years old. Just make decent arguments and leave the gay generation thing to people who don't have an argument otherwise.

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I’ll agree with you on this as I’ve been at BC and gotten behind groups that do the exact same thing. Or they spend an inordinate amount of time on the greens. I agree it’s annoying, kills your rhythm, and makes for a less enjoyable round. But it is what it is on the munis. Either try to play on a weekday or
Look for a private course to play on.

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Yeah, I know what to expect at muni's and other cheaper courses. Those are the types of courses I took my son to play at when he was learning.

My argument is that these slow beginner players should stick to easier, cheaper courses like that rather than playing the higher tier courses like Bryan Park or Mill Creek (examples I used in a previous email) which cost around $65-$70 to play.

I know what to expect if I'm paying $32 for a round vs what I should expect when I'm paying $70+ for a round.

Just seems my reasoning is justified and makes the golf experience better for everybody.

I don't like holding people up behind me when my son plays, but 99% of the people are okay with it. Now if we fall behind a hole to the group in front of us, I imagine they would change their tune a bit, and rightfully so.

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Curious if pro even knows the age of the guy he called out.

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Yes I know Maker is an older fella...

The other guy, Meanstreak...no idea.

I'm just saying that the arguement that was purposed is one of someone who thinks like a millenial ....Not calling him in particular a millenial.

I'm in my late 30's. I also said I don't mind four hour rounds, but you conveniently left that detail out. All I'm saying is you can let people play through. I do it and I play through people. It is a thing that should happen more often than it does.

You are obviously just generational attacking to do so, with little merit. All I'm saying is the thought process that however long you think it should take to play, should mean people behind you play that long is a poor and selfish way to be on a golf course.

Maybe if playing through was more common, the hacks that hold us up from time to time would be more likely to do it when learning the game and etiquette.