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re: Santa Maria and all of BREC

Posted on 3/18/26 at 6:48 am to
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7565 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 6:48 am to
18 hole course - everything should be cut by 9am. If not, you need more workers or equipment.

The “extras” is what they cannot do. They really need to think about closing 1-2 days a month.

New grasses help too. They have options.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17160 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:39 am to
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The course should be closed every Monday.


Most nice places do close on Monday. This gives the course time for much needed maintenance after the weekend madness and gives the crew all full day without interruptions.
Posted by MeanStreak
Member since Nov 2015
346 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:48 am to
Find me any remotely comparable courses to Santa and Beaver in the area that are $65 on weekends. Its also only $50 if you pay online.

I'll hang up and listen...
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 12:14 pm
Posted by robzilla55
City of Central, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
125 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:50 am to
everything should be done at 9am? yea ok. nice try. impossible without a crew of 10+ and the equipment for those guys. youd be very suprised how many public courses have 5-7 guys counting supers, mechanic and assistants
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2970 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Find me any remotely comparable courses to Santa and Beaver in the area that are $65 on weekends.

I'll hang up and listen...


In what area? I'd say Greystone and The Island are close, but they obviously aren't in EBR. I think they're around $70. If you're talking EBR, then sure, SM and BC have no competition at the $65 price point.

Anyway, I like SM and BC just fine, but I prefer to go to Copper or The Island for that price. (Copper is a little cheaper for me with the copper card.)
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
1718 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:18 pm to
Their prices are low because they are subsidized by the taxpayers.
Posted by MeanStreak
Member since Nov 2015
346 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:19 pm to
I added it late, but you can book either of those courses for $50 online prepaid. You can also get the BREC Card which is cheap for your pick of 5 courses.

All of this is just to say BREC golf runs cheap competitively due to the taxes invested in the system. I think people from WBR, Ascension, Livingston, etc should pay 15-30 more a round depending on the course and time if they aren't contributing to the BREC taxes. Annual passes should also be priced higher.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7565 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:47 pm to
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everything should be done at 9am? yea ok. nice try. impossible without a crew of 10+ and the equipment for those guys.


That’s exactly what I said. If they can’t, they need more employees and equipment.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2970 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:50 pm to
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I think people from WBR, Ascension, Livingston, etc should pay 15-30 more a round depending on the course and time if they aren't contributing to the BREC taxes. Annual passes should also be priced higher.


I’m completely fine with that and I live in Livingston. I’d never play those courses, but I’d be fine with it. They can’t compete with the nicer courses if they’re charging $80+.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2970 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 3:55 pm to
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Their prices are low because they are subsidized by the taxpayers.


I get that, but they’re barely lower than some of the semi-private courses in the area.
Posted by lilyankems
Member since Sep 2004
747 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:26 am to
Santa Maria is starting to get to the price point of it not being worth it for the conditions provided. Yes you can prepay for cheaper rates. I understand they are full, all day, everyday plus host multiple tournaments a month but some of the condition issues comes down to the golfers. Sand your divots, fix your ballmarks(and others) on the greens, rake the sand traps and dont allow certain individuals to drive wherever they want on the golf course. I feel like the geofencing is different for different carts/people.

They block tee times on certain day(s) of the week to allow maintenance on the course. I understand what they are trying to do but the small window they are blocking off isnt enough. The bunkers are unplayable. Close the course down on Mondays and perform a full day of uninterrupted maintenance(but this limits BRECs income). When its time to aerate, aerate the tee boxes, fairways and greens.

As far as practice facilities, the amount of laziness and flat out disregard for conditions continues to amaze me. You have a decent short game area if you were able to maintain it. It needs aeration terribly as the ground is so compacted and rock hard. Sand fill the divots, provide consistent turf conditions, and once again, maintain the bunkers. Provide practice balls for the paying customers at this area as well as the white PVC device to gather the balls (cant tell you how many times I have been out there and the short game area had no practice balls on it and the white PVC device was on the putting green by the 1st tee box or broken.) The green surround next to the first tee box is getting destroyed by everyone who thinks that is the short game area. Show up to the golf course in enough time and go to the real short game area. The short game area is also NOT an extension of the driving range. Walk or drive your lazy self to driving range and stop tearing up the short game area. Look at Beaver Creek as an example of BREC who maintains their short game area and provides good conditioned practice balls and turf conditions(white for short game and yellow for the driving range).

If BREC cared about golf and wanted to provide great golf courses I believe they could. Get rid of the buddy/buddy shenanigans, listen to the input of the golfing community, open all facilities at the courses, run the courses properly and have the people do their jobs and take pride in what they do. Look at the RTJ trail as a prime example.
Posted by robzilla55
City of Central, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
125 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 6:11 am to
let me know where those people are. ill hire 3 now and my other super buddies will hire 3 each right now too. you are clueless man. no one wants to work. i know for a fact SM has one of the smaller crews of golf courses around BR.

so, to have everything done by 9am minimum:
2 guys on greens
2 guys on tees
2 guys on fairways
2 guys in bunkers
1 guy coolers and trash
1 guy changing holes

you just need to stop. you're the reason supers hate certain know it all golfers
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16817 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:43 am to
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let me know where those people are. ill hire 3 now and my other super buddies will hire 3 each right now too. you are clueless man. no one wants to work. i know for a fact SM has one of the smaller crews of golf courses around BR.

so, to have everything done by 9am minimum:
2 guys on greens
2 guys on tees
2 guys on fairways
2 guys in bunkers
1 guy coolers and trash
1 guy changing holes

you just need to stop. you're the reason supers hate certain know it all golfers


This should be good. Add 9 more holes to the mix and let him know how many people he needs to get it all done, then you can compare notes.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7565 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:55 am to
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you just need to stop. you're the reason supers hate certain know it all golfers


You’re right. I’m some weekend warrior.

If you can’t find people to work, your pay scale needs adjusting. It can be done as the course I am at does it. I’m not sure why you are arguing when we are saying the same thing. It can be done. You need a crew.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7565 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:57 am to
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let me know where those people are. ill hire 3 now and my other super buddies will hire 3 each right now too. you are clueless man.


I’m 100% clueless here. No idea at all. Not like I’m in the industry.

Indeed gives us 30+ applicants each time we put in an ad. You have to pay for it not the free one.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7565 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:58 am to
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This should be good. Add 9 more holes to the mix and let him know how many people he needs to get it all done, then you can compare notes.


Lol. Right?
Posted by MeanStreak
Member since Nov 2015
346 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:08 am to
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I get that, but they’re barely lower than some of the semi-private courses in the area.


Those courses don't do the volume Santa does and my guess is both price and location. I know Santa does a ton of rounds from people in Ascension. You are comparing it to courses that would take 1.5 hours round trip vs max 40 mins RT for those AP residents.

Raise the out of Parish price and they will get more money or less play, either one is a step in the right direction.
Posted by tigerbait17
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
1460 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:41 am to
The problem is that Santa Maria had over 70,000 rounds played last year. They don't need to do anything to keep it profitable. You cant tell me they don't rake in money. Should they make changes? Absolutely.... Are they?? Probably not....

Also the problem is that BR needs at least one more good 18 hole course to help with the demand. The LSU course being a goat ranch, and potentially getting ride of city park make the problem worse. Public golf is BR is a nightmare. I dont see it changing anytime soon.
Posted by ReeseWee
Geismar, LA
Member since May 2019
540 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:43 am to
I work in Lafayette 3 days a week and always pass by Jay and Lionel Herbert Municipal Golf Course. I noticed every Monday they are closed for maintenance. I decided to play 9 holes yesterday and the course is in good shape. They even had a guy raking the sand traps and another one going around and filling the sand bottles on every tee box at 4pm. BREC could learn alot from them about maintaining a golf course. The only problem I saw out there was to many divots on the greens but that's on the player's part. Also had a worker going around in the fairways putting sand in the divot but that's should have been filled by the player too.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17570 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 11:56 am to
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Public golf is BR is a nightmare. I dont see it changing anytime soon.


It’s gonna get worse. The shoe store lady, and mccollister plus the supervisors of brec, the lsu foundation and braf seem to have got it together this time and will kill another public course here.

The quotes from Mike Polito as chairman of the brec commission says to me they are at minimum reducing the footprint of the city park course and turning it to a pitch and putt.

The business report a-hole, the shoe store lady 225, BRAF, LSU all of them. It’s a steady push. Bizarre. Why do they hate people that play golf?
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 12:01 pm
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